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Poll Question: What do you think of life?
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Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:


Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:


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but not all the things that happened are coincidences, that's why it's called coincidence because it don't happen all the time
Even if there was only one coincidence, it would prove that everything is not predetermined, because coincidences cannot be predetermined.

how if there's something like 'miscalculation'?
anyway i'm not saying that everything was already predetermined or not, i'm just saying that i don't completely believe people who claimed that they can see the future
Do you believe people who claim that they can't see the future? Wink

sure, why not ? isn't it normal ? for example, can you tell your own future ?
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Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:


Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

but not all the things that happened are coincidences, that's why it's called coincidence because it don't happen all the time
Even if there was only one coincidence, it would prove that everything is not predetermined, because coincidences cannot be predetermined.

how if there's something like 'miscalculation'?
anyway i'm not saying that everything was already predetermined or not, i'm just saying that i don't completely believe people who claimed that they can see the future

Do you believe people who claim that they can't see the future? Wink
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Points: 5085 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2007 at 11:07
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:


Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

but not all the things that happened are coincidences, that's why it's called coincidence because it don't happen all the time
Even if there was only one coincidence, it would prove that everything is not predetermined, because coincidences cannot be predetermined.

how if there's something like 'miscalculation'?
anyway i'm not saying that everything was already predetermined or not, i'm just saying that i don't completely believe people who claimed that they can see the future
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Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:


but not all the things that happened are coincidences, that's why it's called coincidence because it don't happen all the time

Even if there was only one coincidence, it would prove that everything is not predetermined, because coincidences cannot be predetermined.
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Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:



Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:


Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Everything has to be predetermined. How else could you explain that some people can see the future?

i don't really believe in people who claimed that they can see the future, well somehow their 'vision' could happen, but who really knows at that time if they're really see the future or just talking bullsh*t ?
Maybe it just a mere coincidence that what they were said then becomes reality
If there are coincidences, we can't really make any choices either, can we?

err maybe... but some said that even coincidences are the will of the creator, while some people would say that they're not, so...if you know what i mean
If there are coincidences, everything is not predetermined, no matter if the coincidences are the will of the creator or not. Wink

but not all the things that happened are coincidences, that's why it's called coincidence because it don't happen all the time

Edited by kazansky - January 30 2007 at 10:51
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Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:


Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Everything has to be predetermined. How else could you explain that some people can see the future?

i don't really believe in people who claimed that they can see the future, well somehow their 'vision' could happen, but who really knows at that time if they're really see the future or just talking bullsh*t ?
Maybe it just a mere coincidence that what they were said then becomes reality
If there are coincidences, we can't really make any choices either, can we?

err maybe... but some said that even coincidences are the will of the creator, while some people would say that they're not, so...if you know what i mean

If there are coincidences, everything is not predetermined, no matter if the coincidences are the will of the creator or not. Wink


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Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:


Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Everything has to be predetermined. How else could you explain that some people can see the future?

i don't really believe in people who claimed that they can see the future, well somehow their 'vision' could happen, but who really knows at that time if they're really see the future or just talking bullsh*t ?
Maybe it just a mere coincidence that what they were said then becomes reality
If there are coincidences, we can't really make any choices either, can we?

err maybe... but some said that even coincidences are the will of the creator, while some people would say that they're not, so...if you know what i mean
The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us.
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Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Everything has to be predetermined. How else could you explain that some people can see the future?

i don't really believe in people who claimed that they can see the future, well somehow their 'vision' could happen, but who really knows at that time if they're really see the future or just talking bullsh*t ?
Maybe it just a mere coincidence that what they were said then becomes reality

If there are coincidences, we can't really make any choices either, can we?
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life is ploughing your own furrow - fate is when other people and other events get in the way!Confused
 
 
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Leave it like that. I would not vote anyway in such an issue way above my knowledge. Smile
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err then what should i add to the poll option ?

Edited by kazansky - January 30 2007 at 10:35
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For me there is God's Providence (according to Christian Orthodox theology), which fortunately leaves me plenty of freedom to better that we call "destiny". I guess this doesn't fit the poll options.

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Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Everything has to be predetermined. How else could you explain that some people can see the future?

i don't really believe in people who claimed that they can see the future, well somehow their 'vision' could happen, but who really knows at that time if they're really see the future or just talking bullsh*t ?
Maybe it just a mere coincidence that what they were said then becomes reality
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for all practical intents and purposes it makes no difference. since humans are random, clumsy and prone to err I'd say we had free will.
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but we don't have a time machine here in the real world...
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Everything has to be predetermined. How else could you explain that some people can see the future?
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One can always change his fate. Just look at Back to the Future.
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Fate, what do you think of it ?
Do you guys believe that our life was already decided when we born and there's no way to change it no matter what ?

Or is there nothing such as fate ? That we are the one who decided our life and future ?

Or maybe even when it's already decided, if we give much effort in it, somehow we could change our fate ?

Maybe some of you won't even care about it and just go through their life ?

I want to know your opinion...
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