wall between USA and Mexico

Sad to say, Jody, but US companies receive yearly twice or thrice the money applied by the US government in any country. All lose, the US taxpayers who support the government, the people in the countries where the aid is supposed to go. The only winners are investors, bankers and a minority economical elite at those countries.

Edited by Atkingani - November 14 2006 at 19:59

Vompatti wrote: Has this wall been seriously suggested?

Unfortunately yes, my friend. In fact, Bush signed a bill into law just two weeks ago to order it built. A billion dollars has already been allocated, although we're not sure this will be enough.



On a brighter note though, as many have already noted above - the Democrats who last week took control of the U.S. House and Senate are more than likely going to try to scrap the whole thing.

the people emigrate,to work better ,to gain more,to find oportunities,the solution is give that oportunities in their countries ,is time to think in the cooperation ,between the countries,because the people that emigrate are people with soul,with spirit like you,like me ,this is my christian way of think,more than a only savage capitalism mentality,the cooperation is necessary,because the emigrant are million of people they are not only statistics,...all in the world is a cause and effect,for example,the narcotraffic,exist because there are a market,or consumers,and USA is the biggest.well .the problem of inmigration could be resolve with more positive politics,not with walls

    I see it as an insult to intelligence in general. The immigration "problem" aside. Do they really think building a big expensive fence is a viable solution? What gets me more is that they want me to believe it is. I may be a product of public education, but come on!
    

Edited by bhikkhu - November 12 2006 at 23:21

If USA take the money that spend in the war of IRAK and use that money for aid,or give credits with low rate of interest to the industry and agriculture of Mexico and others country ,could be a solution but the president Bush,and his partners are too fascist, that is impossible for they think in humanitary way,they think in solutions of their business,i remember  the actitude of bush in the hurricane katrina.and he prefer give money to the war and no maintain the defenses of new orleans

Edited by markosherrera - November 12 2006 at 21:32

Atkingani wrote:   Most ironic, there is 1 million illegal Europeans living/working in the USA. They come from everywhere, not only Eastern Europe but some "rich countries", like Italy or the UK. In terms of jobs, they are much more "dangerous" to the average white/afro US citizen than the traditional ilegales. What to do with these people?

Kill them, of course - especially those coming from Italy! Guigo, my friend, you just gave me a great idea... What if I became an illegal immigrant myself?

Seriously (and very much so) speaking, I think the whole idea is insulting and ridiculous. And, before any of you tells me that I have no idea, I'll remind you that Italy - being surrounded by the sea on three sides - is one of the countries most targeted by illegal immigration. In the past five years, since I came back to live here, I've heard all sorts of talk about  this topic - including those a**holes from the Lega Nord suggesting the army fire cannons against the various kinds of seacraft daily heading from North Africa towards the coast of Sicily.

Besides, there is another uncomfortable truth to be faced: illegal immigration exists and is so rife because there are those who take advantage from it - those dishonest employers who make a profit out of people's desire for a better life (or, in some cases, outright desperation), exploiting the situation in order to pay them less, be able to blackmail them, and avoid paying taxes. This is what happens in Italy, especially in such sectors as the construction industry.

is neccessary??? no way....

I have a very strong opinion of this but will sway from opinion here.

Just know that I am a border state citizen, and thus in the middle of all this.

I just received a PM from a member (Woon't mention his name because PM's must remain private) disgusted becauseof the use I doid of the term redneck, and I will clarify it because I have nothing against USA citizens but specifically against a funtionaty of USA Embasy in Perú back in 1991:

Make a wall in USA-Mexico frontier,is stupid.........,can you imagine Europa doing a wall in the mediterranean sea,for stop inmigrants of Africa.I believe there are leaders with very low I.Q..............SOME COMPANYS ARE COMPETITIVES,THANKS THE INMIGRANTS and they cant pay rent taxes because they win very low ,but they are a market too,they move the economy ,they eat,they buy dress, etc  ,  they pay indirect taxes....they are recovering spaces,.for example in New Orleans, and after all ,they are humans with feelings and hopes.