Genesis - Gabriel Lies Down On Broadway

 ANd with that tirade, i just became a senior member!!  How apt... !

Wrath_of_Ninian wrote:    Can you pop over and ask him why he wrote 'Sledgehammer'?

Sure.

Hey Wrath, do me a favour, listen Song for America once and the talk to me again.

Iván

PS: Sooner or later you'll start to like Nursery Cryme, Selling England (even though is the weaker Gabriel Genesis album IMHO) and you'll start to hate the name Phil Collins when refered to any activity different to playing drums.

Iván

Wrath_of_Ninian wrote: ivan_2068 wrote: Wrath of Ninian wrote: This is YOUR fault Ivan - if we'd not had that fight, I'd never have gone back to listen to them again and they'd be resting in my "Vault of the Don't Waste Your Time" along with Kansas, Styx, Alan Parsons, and all 80s prog. Don't be unfair Wrath, we never fought, we only had a discussion, but today I'm proud of a job well done I'll wait a few weeks to introduce you to the wonders of Kansas, band that you unfairly lump with Styx and late Alan Parsons. Hope I will succeed again. God I feel like the Evangelist of the hated bands. Iván   You lawyers take everything so literally - it was actually meant in an endearing way...! ANyway, credit where credit is due Ivan - I grant you that your undying determination to defend the Genesis camp from the word 'rubbish', was certainly behind me getting ahold of the Lamb again, if only to try and rubbish it formally!  And it backfired on me...!!   But do not rest on your laurels , for I have decided that the other Gabriel albums are nowhere near as good, and in fact, with the exception of some sublime moments on Foxtrot, they are vastly inferior.   With regards to Kansas, please don't bother.  I listened to Leftoverture yesterday, and it is the worst thing I've heard since Cliff Richard.  Sugary sweet M.O.R., A.O.R., C.R.A.P. with some of the most horrifically bad lyrics, smattered like Nutella over a brioche of bog-standard riffage in a strawberry milkshake of mono-dynamic pop schmultz.  It churned my stomach, Ivan .

Then try this WON. Sound quality is not great but you should get the general idea. :

http://rich-williams.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuild erfiles/1974_The_Pinnacle.wmv

ivan_2068 wrote: Wrath of Ninian wrote: This is YOUR fault Ivan - if we'd not had that fight, I'd never have gone back to listen to them again and they'd be resting in my "Vault of the Don't Waste Your Time" along with Kansas, Styx, Alan Parsons, and all 80s prog. Don't be unfair Wrath, we never fought, we only had a discussion, but today I'm proud of a job well done I'll wait a few weeks to introduce you to the wonders of Kansas, band that you unfairly lump with Styx and late Alan Parsons. Hope I will succeed again. God I feel like the Evangelist of the hated bands. Iván

  You lawyers take everything so literally - it was actually meant in an endearing way...!

ANyway, credit where credit is due Ivan - I grant you that your undying determination to defend the Genesis camp from the word 'rubbish', was certainly behind me getting ahold of the Lamb again, if only to try and rubbish it formally!  And it backfired on me...!!   But do not rest on your laurels , for I have decided that the other Gabriel albums are nowhere near as good, and in fact, with the exception of some sublime moments on Foxtrot, they are vastly inferior.  

With regards to Kansas, please don't bother.  I listened to Leftoverture yesterday, and it is the worst thing I've heard since Cliff Richard.  Sugary sweet M.O.R., A.O.R., C.R.A.P. with some of the most horrifically bad lyrics, smattered like Nutella over a brioche of bog-standard riffage in a strawberry milkshake of mono-dynamic pop schmultz.  It churned my stomach, Ivan .      

Wrath of Ninian wrote:

This is YOUR fault Ivan - if we'd not had that fight, I'd never have gone back to listen to them again and they'd be resting in my "Vault of the Don't Waste Your Time" along with Kansas, Styx, Alan Parsons, and all 80s prog.

Don't be unfair Wrath, we never fought, we only had a discussion, but today I'm proud of a job well done

I'll wait a few weeks to introduce you to the wonders of Kansas, band that you unfairly lump with Styx and late Alan Parsons. Hope I will succeed again.

God I feel like the Evangelist of the hated bands.

Iván

threefates wrote: Poor Ninian... you fell so easily!!  So sad

 I know, it didn't take very much - couple of listens really.  I'm not coping well with this.

I'm still having trouble stomaching Nursery Cryme, SEBTP and the later ones, but the Lamb Lies Down and Foxtrot have some really good moments.  I'd never reached the second CD of Lamb before, in fact, I'd never got to the end of the first one, and I think forcing myself to listen to the whole thing is what did it. 

I also think the timing was right - I've been listening to the same things for years and have been hard pushed to find anything of the standard of PFM that I can alternate between.  ELP sometimes fill in, but I can only play a few compilations I've made as their horror moments make me homicidal   !!  Genesis aren't quite up there with PFM, but bits of it do have a similar 'feel' (what a crap analogy!!).  

Rob The Good wrote: You should never be ashamed of liking Genesis...unless it's 80s pop Genesis

 They should have changed their name when Gabriel left.  DEUTERONOMY or something.  Then again when Hackett left - CHRONICLES.