overnatural

Violator: Could you please explain more?, i don't understand what you mean by overnatural music, i use to say that something is overnatural when is so complex and hard to play that it is unbelivable that human beings made that. But surely you don't mean that, also you don't mean that the drumming is made by samplers because the bands you mentioned as "not overnatural" use more samplers than Transatlantic, DT or TFK. 

I understand what he means a bit I think. Either way, I don't like Portnoy's drumming either - it sounds the same a lot and I can imagine how someone'd think it's sampled.

perhaps you mean something completely different?

Vi0LaToR wrote: i didnt say they are bad bands, but the sound is retouched,modified, very very very perfected nowadays bands like marillion,iq or pendragon make better sound IMO

Very strange reasoning.

You think bands like Transatlantic,TFK and Dream Theater sound too polished but the neo bands you like aren't?

Neo is some of the most polished,sterile sounding music I have ever heard here.

Empathy wrote: Vi0LaToR wrote: i didnt say they are bad bands, but the sound is retouched,modified, very very very perfectednowadays bands like marillion,iq or pendragon make better sound IMO If you think any of these bands don't spend just as much time on studio production as the bands you take issue with... you're fooling yourself.

And I have to add that The Flower Kings use to release an album every year, and the singer and guitarist also releases solo albums and plays in other bands. They obviously son't spend any time on studio production. They just play music without much production.

    

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Vi0LaToR wrote: little real,poor skill,programmed music... Says someone who has a Depeche Mode album as username?

maybe is the production but the sound isnt REAL like other bands, the keyboard sound is fake,drums like samplers = computer sound

well, i understand it, you dont understand it

I don't understand what you say. Those bands make real music without computers or sequencers. The Flower Kings, for example, is a good band when playing live, as they use to jam and play improvised guitar and keyboard solos, etc. They use real bass and real drums, not drum machines. They even use to play vintage analog keyboards instead of digital ones ¿Where do you see the "programmed music"? The same I can say with Transatlantic. Dream Theater use digital keyboards, but they play it also in the traditional way.

And if you ask me, Pendragon's music sounds less "natural" to me than these bands, and less diverse. Not to mention Marillion, who have used some drum machines in their last albums.

I happen to like every band Violator has mentioned (with Marillion being my favorite); however, I'm a bit confused on the root question as well. Transatlantic are one of the most live sounding bands I've ever heard.

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I dont catch you yet...for you DT, TFK and Transatlantic are bad bands??

You named three of my favourite bands... but what do you mean with "overnatural"?