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Norbert
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 04:36 |
Why has SDOIT 12 votes? It's a great album.
I would declare TOT my least favourite. It's not a bad album, but not very appealing to me.
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JayDee
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 03:52 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
And I love DT but Falling Into Infinity is my least favorite album.It just sounds uninspired. |
Ditto
There you go...
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nowayman121
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 03:46 |
I can see why people don't like Train Of Thought, its got a much more metal sound to it then the others but I like my heavy prog, i think its great. Every DT album is fantastic IMO, but i have to say When Dream and Day Unite, I could never really get into it as much as the others. My faviourite is Octavarium or Falling Into Infinity to be different from the majority of people. I really like what Derek Sherinian did on Falling Into Infinity, its a terrific album with a number of terrific songs but sadly also weaker moments which alot of people seem to think out weigh the good ones. I don't know why people don't like Octavarium, I think its all good from start to end.
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Ironing Mike
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 01:27 |
For me every DT studio album runs hot and cold - especially Octavarium
(love the title track, but that's about it). It's ironical then that the Budokan
live DVD is probably the best live concert I've seen from any band. Perhaps
their next stdio effort should be released as a live DVD!!!
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Jaydubz
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 01:16 |
"When Day..." - unlistenable.
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razifa
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Posted: April 15 2006 at 00:39 |
I give my vote to Octavarium. A mediocre and terrible release with a mainstream influence late alternative US bands. I dislike it a lot. Maybe as an alternative album is not bad but a prog release it is a real shame!
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blazno
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 08:51 |
I voted for Train of Thought, but I'm wondering how can Six Deegres of Inner Turbulance have over 20% it's a really great album IMO.
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Aspiring hope
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Posted: April 11 2006 at 08:36 |
Can't come to debase When Dream And Day Unite, save for least than half
of the album itself, relating inferiority to auditive capture's
failure, from the band, as well as developing a common dislike for
Charlie Dominici's voice within Dream Theater, which I won't claim him
a mediocre vocalist, though, as the the band itself realised, not what
composes DT's nature. Nevertheless, technical performance and lyrical
content, throughout tracks as Fortune In Lies, Status Seeker, Ytse Jam
(possibly the best instrumental) and Killing Hand, should be deemed
enough to guarantee the album's elusion from balefully scorn views.
Able to find a sense of reason in plausible contemn (which doesn't
really reach those proportions) for Falling Into Infinity, since it
bears with it, some of the worst tracks in Dream Theater's history, due
to unfortunate basis of shallow construction, alien to the band's
grasp, however having as well many of the best songs written (Hell's
Kitchen, Lines In the Sand, New Millenium, Peruvian Skies, Trial of
Tears), thus close to opprobrium, relative to its anterior and
posterior creations. Train of Thought is also rightfully regarded as
one of the worst, probably from its "unidimensional" traits binding the
album to an ever present plangent proximity to metal's sheer essence,
rather than prog (even though, progressive features are always highly
noticeable), and also the inaptitude to create more than averagely
defined lyricism and musical allurement, despite all its congenial
quality. What truely poses a considerable blemish as to DT's virtuous
path in music, in my opinion, stands as Octavarium. Many would most
likely disagree (which at some extent I fail to fanthom), though it
seems to complete the previously mentioned albums' distance to utter
failure, as it'd convey an insidiously evolved consanguinity with
commercial metal, appearing to writhe in what ailed FII, for most
tracks never extend the potential seen before, both in technical
performance and composed grandeur, save for Octavarium itself. Lyrics
tend to slaughter hopeful poises carefully accompanying the band's
success with a horrid thud clashing at banality, which is less than one
can say about the music, though it doesn't fall that much behind - Root
of All Evil, Answer Lies Within (yes, that could have been a
grandiously innovative hit, if only every single individual on the
planet hadn't seen/heard/loathed the concept before), These Walls/I
Walk Beside You (lean to where the previous tumbled); Panic Attack
conceives its own significant ambience, through dynamic sound and
congruently rhythmnic vocals/lyrics, providing an identity of its own
(at what is possible from such shortened manneuverability, since it
barely complies to discern from the rest's quality); Never Enough
places itself on a balanced sense of inferiority, though achieving a
pleasant enough solo; Sacrificed Sons discusses what every sentient
being has come to perceive, which isn't really atributing of much
credit, though a prime song over ambience, as well as a better
performance. In conclusion, the title track is a sumptuous display of
epic depth, but is sadly blemished from previous songs, in the album's
overall character, thus why I would consider it even worst than Change
of Seasons or any other mentioned above.
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 17:12 |
I absolutely love all DT albums. I also think When Dream and Day Unite is excellent!
But if i MUST choose a LEAST favorite, then i'd have to be Falling Into Infinity - i'm not a big fan of You Not Me, Take Away My Pain, and Anna Lee.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 17:07 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
But A Change of Seasons is also a live album.
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No, it isn't. The live songs on A Change of Serasons are bonus tracks. Nearly the equivalent of bonus tracks on a reissue. They aren't really part of the album.
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White Queen
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 16:52 |
Why does everyone pick on "When Dream and Day Unite"  It is my favorite!
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 16:44 |
But A Change of Seasons is also a live album. The poll is best Dream Theater studio album. Why don't I just vote for Live at Budokan?
I guess I'll vote for When Dream and Day Unite. It's an album with some class playing, but the depth to the composing isn't there. Charlie Dominichi sounds like a strange Geddy Lee. The good matierial on the album is quite impressive though. I just can't stand some of the hair metal influence.
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ANDREW
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 14:23 |
I like them all, but "Falling Into Infinity" is my least favourite.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:07 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I know ... the problem is that people who consider it to be a full album always rate it lower, because of the live tracks. Which is not appropriate, because these are essentially bonus tracks. The only "real" track is the epic.
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I agree. I think the live tracks should be neglected when considering the score of the album. I see all these low reviews for it because of your stated reason, and that, to me, is not right.
And to me, it is out of question what the weakest DT album is: When Dream and Day Unite. It's not the same without LaBrie, the production is poor, and the band hadn't quite reached their potential musically or compisitionally. If they re-recorded the album (in the studio), it might be more worthwhile.
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BookAboutSalad
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 12:49 |
I actually like WDADU, the production is crap and poor Charlie's voice is far from James LaBrie's, but it's nothing wrong with the music. Maybe their newer stuff is better but still.
But I would say Train of Thought. Not that it's that bad, but it's their worst 
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Padraic
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:47 |
Probably for me it's "When Dream and Day Unite". I can probably
count on one hand the number of times I've listened to it in the past
10 years.
I was really into "Falling into Infinity" when it came out, but haven't
listened to it much since. Interviews with Portnoy revealed it
wasn't really the album he (and possibly the whole band) wanted to make
- there were various pressures from the label for something more
commercial, etc. In fact, if I remember correctly, around that
time Mike believed there was a good chance that the band might just
fold up, or at the least he would quit. Thankfully they got
through to record the next album, almost universally acknowledged as
the band's masterpiece.
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FragileDT
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:47 |
I would say Train of Thought though I think it is a good album.
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W.Chuck
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:42 |
Train of thought and images and words
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lobster41
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:11 |
In my opinion, Train of Thought is heavy for the sake of being heavy. Then again, I have always found FII to be DT's best work.
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Marc Baum
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Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:06 |
I can't find one DT album that I think is their worst or an bad album in general. If you ask me which earns the lowest mark, I simply put "Falling Into Infinity". That album seems a bit too polished for my taste, but I still can recommend it to anyone. It's a "grower-album". If you once have accept the mainstream-orrientation of that album, you will find much to love about this record as well.
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