The Worst Dream Theater Studio Album
Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Polls
Forum Description: Create polls on topics related to progressive music
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=21524
Printed Date: February 21 2025 at 02:40
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: The Worst Dream Theater Studio Album
Posted By: silversaw
Subject: The Worst Dream Theater Studio Album
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:12
|
This is my first poll, and yes I am a Dream Theater fan...but instead
of making an obvious pol of your favorite album, etc., I figured
I'd go the opposite way. DT is always a hotbed of discussion and
often times outright hatred. Here's your chance to say why your
choice sucks, hehe. My choice is "When Dream And Day Unite." DT's first official recording, sounding more like a heavier version of Rush than anything else. Musically it's not bad at all, but it's nowhere near DT's future quality. Happy voting!!!!!  |
Replies:
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:13
|
This could go one of two ways. It's either going to be a nice,calm discussion or turn into a verbal brawl. -------------  |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:14
|
And I love DT but Falling Into Infinity is my least favorite album.It just sounds uninspired.
------------- |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:14
------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
|
Posted By: silversaw
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:16
| I've been around long enough to know that you're right! I'd like to see people discuss things intelligently...but somehow there are several bands that seem to get everyone riled up!!! Dt is one of them! |
Posted By: silversaw
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:18
"Seasons" is basically an EP, but I had to keep in there for the title track, as some DT fans site that as one of the band's greatest moments! |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:Posted By: silversaw
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:24
It seems that maybe people are sick of DT for the time being! I
give my apologies if this post was somewhat redundant!!! 
|
Posted By: Paul K.
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 09:47
|
When Dream And Day Unite.
Yes, it isn't DT's classic line-up, but I don't like it. All I can say about other albums is that they are GREAT. I like 'em all. ------------- Weasels ripped my flesh |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:02
I know ... the problem is that people who consider it to be a full album always rate it lower, because of the live tracks. Which is not appropriate, because these are essentially bonus tracks. The only "real" track is the epic. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
|
Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:06
|
I can't find one DT album that I think is their worst or an bad album in general. If you ask me which earns the lowest mark, I simply put "Falling Into Infinity". That album seems a bit too polished for my taste, but I still can recommend it to anyone. It's a "grower-album". If you once have accept the mainstream-orrientation of that album, you will find much to love about this record as well. ------------- "All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste." - GENTLE GIANT |
Posted By: lobster41
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 10:11
In my opinion, Train of Thought is heavy for the sake of being heavy. Then again, I have always found FII to be DT's best work. 
|
Posted By: W.Chuck
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:42
|
Train of thought and images and words ------------- 
|
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:47
|
I would say Train of Thought though I think it is a good album. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 11:47
|
Probably for me it's "When Dream and Day Unite". I can probably
count on one hand the number of times I've listened to it in the past
10 years. I was really into "Falling into Infinity" when it came out, but haven't listened to it much since. Interviews with Portnoy revealed it wasn't really the album he (and possibly the whole band) wanted to make - there were various pressures from the label for something more commercial, etc. In fact, if I remember correctly, around that time Mike believed there was a good chance that the band might just fold up, or at the least he would quit. Thankfully they got through to record the next album, almost universally acknowledged as the band's masterpiece. |
Posted By: BookAboutSalad
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 12:49
|
I actually like WDADU, the production is crap and poor Charlie's voice is far from James LaBrie's, but it's nothing wrong with the music. Maybe their newer stuff is better but still. But I would say Train of Thought. Not that it's that bad, but it's their worst |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 13:07
I agree. I think the live tracks should be neglected when considering the score of the album. I see all these low reviews for it because of your stated reason, and that, to me, is not right. And to me, it is out of question what the weakest DT album is: When Dream and Day Unite. It's not the same without LaBrie, the production is poor, and the band hadn't quite reached their potential musically or compisitionally. If they re-recorded the album (in the studio), it might be more worthwhile. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
|
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 14:23
| I like them all, but "Falling Into Infinity" is my least favourite. |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 16:44
But A Change of Seasons is also a live album. The poll is best Dream Theater studio album. Why don't I just vote for Live at Budokan? I guess I'll vote for When Dream and Day Unite. It's an album with some class playing, but the depth to the composing isn't there. Charlie Dominichi sounds like a strange Geddy Lee. The good matierial on the album is quite impressive though. I just can't stand some of the hair metal influence. -------------  
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: White Queen
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 16:52
Why does everyone pick on "When Dream and Day Unite" It is my favorite! |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 17:07
No, it isn't. The live songs on A Change of Serasons are bonus tracks. Nearly the equivalent of bonus tracks on a reissue. They aren't really part of the album. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
|
Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: April 10 2006 at 17:12
|
I absolutely love all DT albums. I also think When Dream and Day Unite is excellent! But if i MUST choose a LEAST favorite, then i'd have to be Falling Into Infinity - i'm not a big fan of You Not Me, Take Away My Pain, and Anna Lee. ------------- Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can |
Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 08:36
|
Can't come to debase When Dream And Day Unite, save for least than half
of the album itself, relating inferiority to auditive capture's
failure, from the band, as well as developing a common dislike for
Charlie Dominici's voice within Dream Theater, which I won't claim him
a mediocre vocalist, though, as the the band itself realised, not what
composes DT's nature. Nevertheless, technical performance and lyrical
content, throughout tracks as Fortune In Lies, Status Seeker, Ytse Jam
(possibly the best instrumental) and Killing Hand, should be deemed
enough to guarantee the album's elusion from balefully scorn views.
Able to find a sense of reason in plausible contemn (which doesn't
really reach those proportions) for Falling Into Infinity, since it
bears with it, some of the worst tracks in Dream Theater's history, due
to unfortunate basis of shallow construction, alien to the band's
grasp, however having as well many of the best songs written (Hell's
Kitchen, Lines In the Sand, New Millenium, Peruvian Skies, Trial of
Tears), thus close to opprobrium, relative to its anterior and
posterior creations. Train of Thought is also rightfully regarded as
one of the worst, probably from its "unidimensional" traits binding the
album to an ever present plangent proximity to metal's sheer essence,
rather than prog (even though, progressive features are always highly
noticeable), and also the inaptitude to create more than averagely
defined lyricism and musical allurement, despite all its congenial
quality. What truely poses a considerable blemish as to DT's virtuous
path in music, in my opinion, stands as Octavarium. Many would most
likely disagree (which at some extent I fail to fanthom), though it
seems to complete the previously mentioned albums' distance to utter
failure, as it'd convey an insidiously evolved consanguinity with
commercial metal, appearing to writhe in what ailed FII, for most
tracks never extend the potential seen before, both in technical
performance and composed grandeur, save for Octavarium itself. Lyrics
tend to slaughter hopeful poises carefully accompanying the band's
success with a horrid thud clashing at banality, which is less than one
can say about the music, though it doesn't fall that much behind - Root
of All Evil, Answer Lies Within (yes, that could have been a
grandiously innovative hit, if only every single individual on the
planet hadn't seen/heard/loathed the concept before), These Walls/I
Walk Beside You (lean to where the previous tumbled); Panic Attack
conceives its own significant ambience, through dynamic sound and
congruently rhythmnic vocals/lyrics, providing an identity of its own
(at what is possible from such shortened manneuverability, since it
barely complies to discern from the rest's quality); Never Enough
places itself on a balanced sense of inferiority, though achieving a
pleasant enough solo; Sacrificed Sons discusses what every sentient
being has come to perceive, which isn't really atributing of much
credit, though a prime song over ambience, as well as a better
performance. In conclusion, the title track is a sumptuous display of
epic depth, but is sadly blemished from previous songs, in the album's
overall character, thus why I would consider it even worst than Change
of Seasons or any other mentioned above.
-------------  |
Posted By: blazno
Date Posted: April 11 2006 at 08:51
| I voted for Train of Thought, but I'm wondering how can Six Deegres of Inner Turbulance have over 20% it's a really great album IMO. |
Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 00:39
I give my vote to Octavarium. A mediocre and terrible release with a mainstream influence late alternative US bands. I dislike it a lot. Maybe as an alternative album is not bad but a prog release it is a real shame! ------------- ********** **razifa** ********** |
Posted By: Jaydubz
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 01:16
|
"When Day..." - unlistenable. ------------- "Music is the best." ~ FZ |
Posted By: Ironing Mike
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 01:27
|
For me every DT studio album runs hot and cold - especially Octavarium
(love the title track, but that's about it). It's ironical then that the Budokan live DVD is probably the best live concert I've seen from any band. Perhaps their next stdio effort should be released as a live DVD!!! ------------- It's a rainy day, sunshine girl |
Posted By: nowayman121
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 03:46
| I can see why people don't like Train Of Thought, its got a much more metal sound to it then the others but I like my heavy prog, i think its great. Every DT album is fantastic IMO, but i have to say When Dream and Day Unite, I could never really get into it as much as the others. My faviourite is Octavarium or Falling Into Infinity to be different from the majority of people. I really like what Derek Sherinian did on Falling Into Infinity, its a terrific album with a number of terrific songs but sadly also weaker moments which alot of people seem to think out weigh the good ones. I don't know why people don't like Octavarium, I think its all good from start to end. |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 03:52
|
Ditto There you go...
------------- 
|
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 04:36
|
Why has SDOIT 12 votes? It's a great album. I would declare TOT my least favourite. It's not a bad album, but not very appealing to me. |
Posted By: white_russian
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 06:00
|
octavarium or falling into infinity. wouldn't call them bad albums, though.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/white_russian"> 
|
Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 12:10
|
I think Train Of Thought is the worst album, it's more metal than something else. I miss the progressive style in the songs |
Posted By: Dr Know
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 20:53
| You shouldn´t allow multi votes, it messes up your poll. |
Posted By: ~Rael~
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 08:54
|
It is kind of funny that when I asked for DT recommendations, most eveyone said I and W, and now it has the most votes.
I have only heard three of there albums (IaW, SFaM, and TOT) and IaW is definatly my least favoite. Scenes is my favorite, but I really like TOT, because I am a heavy metal fan at heart, and when I heard this was thier heaviest and darkest release, I knew I would like it. My only complaint would be not enough keyboard action. ------------- I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress . . . |
Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 09:00
I can't choose a worst one. I love 'em all. 
|
Posted By: Peace Frog
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 11:10
|
Dream Theater make good music, but it's so damn contrived! ------------- http://imageshack.us"> 
|
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 12:32
|
FIF is my least favourite
I would probably never like it
|
Posted By: Serguilloche
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 16:56
|
FII Their most commercial attempt, but at least they realised what they were good at and went back to awesomeness on every album since. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Serguilloche/?chartstyle=Bubbles"> 
|
Posted By: Zenith
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 17:06
|
It must be the debut. ------------- We're only in it for the music!!! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 17:10
|
Have yet to hear FII and WDADU but of the rest Octavarium is easaly the worst for me. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
|
Posted By: walrus333
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 17:15
|
Falling Into Infinity is their worst IMO. 6DOIT is pretty bad also. Not sure why WDADU and IAW are receiving so many votes, they are DT`s 2 best if you ask me. ------------- If anyone knows where I can get a copy of some Flute and Voice (Indo-Prog/Raga Rock) albums please PM me! Many thanks! |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 20:21
|
This poll have multiple votes, which makes it worthless! Anyway, I voted "Octavarium". ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 20:47
|
I think Falling Int Infinity. But they ALL rule.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 22:10
Falling into Infinity is one of the best Neo-Prog albums ever! ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 22:53
| all of them are my worst |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: April 27 2006 at 23:08
|
All of them are my best
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 02:28
Images and Words with 33 votes?
|
Posted By: Grunt
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 04:45
|
Images and words
worst album??? You gotta be kiddin'!!! At least in that
album there are SONGS with a melody you can remember and hum in
the shower lol! |
Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 07:53
I share your uncertainty and disappointment, though, in spite of being a conspicuously virtuous outcome of DT's labour, many tend to find it blunt, in conflict with its successors, as the sound is herald to a somewhat raw appeal from Dream Theater (I've heard some plausible complaints against the drum-work). Nevertheless, the album enchants an unique identidy, plunging from WDADU, baring a progressive euphony arrayed in vast gradations, should they be tinged in majority with metal (Pull Me Under), ballads (Wait For Sleep), epic-proximities (Learning To Live), or instrumental orgies of grandeur's recogniseable orchestration (Metropolis Pt1, Take The Time). Not at all to be thought of an inverted apex, as prog finds itself embraced in pleasantly crafted melodies, apart from minor encumberments to perfectly optimized potential. ------------- |
Posted By: nowayman121
Date Posted: April 28 2006 at 08:22
|
I recently listend to every dream theater studio album back to back. it took two days haha, but the album which didnt do anything was octavarium. Falling into infinity doesn't sound very much like Dream Theater, mainly because of Derek Sherinians keyboards but i think its one of their best next to awake, why it has so many votes shocks me. My vote goes to Octavarium its good but just doesnt stick out, Dream Theater need to really put some heart and thought into making their next record.
------------- Progressive: Intelligent music for intelligent people. |