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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: January 08 2006 at 16:58 |
A recent trip to Half Price Books rendered these records (all for under $4 each, most were $1) all in good condition:
Rick Wakeman - Six Wives of Henry VIII Strawbs - Bursting at the Seams John Frusciante - DC EP ELP - Brain Salad Surgery Yes - CTTE
I also recently got Tool's Lateralus on vinyl as well.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: January 08 2006 at 16:37 |
Garion81 wrote:
sigod wrote:
Yeah I still buy vinyl off e-bay. You can still by 12' stuff new that's dance related but good prog? Only second hand so it seems.
BTW check out the 'currently listening to..' thread for more news and views on this subject
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Hey I found a used record store here in California recently. Got a pretty good copy of Point of Know Return by Kansas and had it signed by Steve Walsh the same night. Paid $1 for it.
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Sweet!! You got a great keepsake there! I saw a lady get all the current Kansas members to sign an original Masque album cover during their opening act's set at a concert a few months back. One of my sons tried to get them to sign one of their sheet music books he had brought, but they were getting ready to go on stage. At the end of the show though, that goofy kid who plays bongos for Kansas brought out drumsticks signed by Phil Ehart and gave them to my kid. Very cool!
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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Radioactive Toy
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Posted: January 08 2006 at 10:34 |
raindances.. yes and a towel
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Zac M
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 01:14 |
One of them is Rainances and the other is Islands maybe????
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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Laurent
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Posted: October 03 2005 at 23:51 |
Radioactive Toy wrote:
hey lets take an look at this.. yeah great teddy also!
I've had to buy it all... trade etc...
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What are the albums underneath Close To The Edge, and Meddle?.
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Laurent
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Posted: October 03 2005 at 19:08 |
I've recently become interested in purchasing vinyls. I'm afraid the whole "Vinyl sounds better then CD" thing is lost on me. Just don't have the ears, I guess. To me, nothing beats the pristine, Crystal Clear sound of a remastered CD. I buy Vinyls mostly out of curiosity and historical purposes. I'm not that concerned with how good the sound quality is, as that's what I have the CD's for, as long as it sounds decent.
I'd like to make it my goal, to have at least 1 or 2 Vinyls by each of my favorite bands. But I'm not gonna go crazy buying a sh*tload of vinyls.
Doesn anybody else buy vinyls, they allread have on CD. I know plenty of people must do it the other way around.
Edited by Laurent
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: July 29 2005 at 07:54 |
Keep in mind, the more recent vinyls are nothing more than a CD on vinyl. They're not using the original analog tapes to press these anymore. To preserve those, they're using digital master tapes that were transferred from the analog tapes. Big difference. |
Sure! I admit sincerelly that I know almost nothing about the manufacturing of LP's, my opinnions have been formed only by consuming music in different formats. I'm not at home currently, so I can't look at the details from sleeves of the albums I mentioned before, but I guess the early 90's PG recordings were done digitally? I'm not sure about the swedish prog recordings then, they were done by Mellotronen-company few years ago.
Thanks for your informative reply!
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marktheshark
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Posted: July 29 2005 at 07:40 |
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
Guests wrote:
I bought an assload of progressive and jazz albums like Rush, Weather Report, Yes, King Crimson...and ALL of them skipped on at least two of the tracks. I was SO pissed that they were all defective in some way or another. I realized why they were so cheap ($2.99 a piece) and why people got rid of them. I would suggest selling your turntable or refraining from buying one, and use the money to buy the records on CD. The only two reasons I could see someone buying vinyl these days is for collecting purposes or for the album art. Album art really took it in the shorts when CDs became the main format for music. |
I bet you can fix most of those LP's if you want to. First wash them with water, which is not very hot and with low pressure. Dry them, and get a sharp paper knife. Then carefully make a cut along the track, and I guarantee there's only a slight crack or pop there, where it used to stuck jumping. It might be more difficult to do this kind of a repair on a CD. And at least I manage to ruin CD's scratching them regurally, but I have never in my life managed to ruin a LP.
If you're not interested in LP repairing hobby activities, please let's negotiate a resonable price and sell them to me! It's heartbreaking to think about poor, molested vinyls. I still have bad feelings about an occasion, when I found a smashed PROCOL HARUM's LP while wandering in a forest...
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marktheshark wrote:
Vinyl is warmer and more listenable. At least 'til 1979. After that, the quality just diminished to low grade vinyl quality and the use of 2nd and 3rd generation master tape copies to press them on for mass marketing. That's why I stuck with the audiophile LPs in the mid 80s where they used high-density virgin vinyl and the studio master tapes for pressing. They made LPs the way they were supposed be made like they did in the 60s and early 70s. |
What do you think about modern vinyl presesses? I bought some LP's at early 90's, and I think the sound on them is great, F.Ex. PETER GABRIEL's "Us" and "Passion". I also have some recent vinyls by ANEKDOTEN, MORTE MACABRE and PAATOS. I must admit that I'm a bit deaf, so I'm not so sensitive about audio quality, but I hear the differences, as I concentrate to listen at it. One of my well-hearing friend is quite interested at the sounds of records, and I have had some listening and debate sessions about this subject. |
Keep in mind, the more recent vinyls are nothing more than a CD on vinyl. They're not using the original analog tapes to press these anymore. To preserve those, they're using digital master tapes that were transferred from the analog tapes. Big difference.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: July 29 2005 at 07:02 |
Guests wrote:
I bought an assload of progressive and jazz albums like Rush, Weather Report, Yes, King Crimson...and ALL of them skipped on at least two of the tracks. I was SO pissed that they were all defective in some way or another. I realized why they were so cheap ($2.99 a piece) and why people got rid of them. I would suggest selling your turntable or refraining from buying one, and use the money to buy the records on CD. The only two reasons I could see someone buying vinyl these days is for collecting purposes or for the album art. Album art really took it in the shorts when CDs became the main format for music. |
I bet you can fix most of those LP's if you want to. First wash them with water, which is not very hot and with low pressure. Dry them, and get a sharp paper knife. Then carefully make a cut along the track, and I guarantee there's only a slight crack or pop there, where it used to stuck jumping. It might be more difficult to do this kind of a repair on a CD. And at least I manage to ruin CD's scratching them regurally, but I have never in my life managed to ruin a LP.
If you're not interested in LP repairing hobby activities, please let's negotiate a resonable price and sell them to me! It's heartbreaking to think about poor, molested vinyls. I still have bad feelings about an occasion, when I found a smashed PROCOL HARUM's LP while wandering in a forest...
marktheshark wrote:
Vinyl is warmer and more listenable. At least 'til 1979. After that, the quality just diminished to low grade vinyl quality and the use of 2nd and 3rd generation master tape copies to press them on for mass marketing. That's why I stuck with the audiophile LPs in the mid 80s where they used high-density virgin vinyl and the studio master tapes for pressing. They made LPs the way they were supposed be made like they did in the 60s and early 70s. |
What do you think about modern vinyl presesses? I bought some LP's at early 90's, and I think the sound on them is great, F.Ex. PETER GABRIEL's "Us" and "Passion". I also have some recent vinyls by ANEKDOTEN, MORTE MACABRE and PAATOS. I must admit that I'm a bit deaf, so I'm not so sensitive about audio quality, but I hear the differences, as I concentrate to listen at it. One of my well-hearing friend is quite interested at the sounds of records, and I have had some listening and debate sessions about this subject.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: May 01 2005 at 15:17 |
Don't be fooled, Linn LP12 is a reference, but you have to
put a real good cartrige (moving coil), and much more.
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: May 01 2005 at 11:30 |
Bad, scratched vinyl is horrible but good, carefully looked after discs blow the a**e off CDs. Buying second hand off ebay is a risk.
The Rega Planar 3 is a great cheap deck but I have really major doubts about the Linn LP12's fidelity though some swear by them ( I inherited a full Linn system and it was absolute sh*te to my ears). I use a Systemdek IIX with Mission 774 Arm and an Ortofon MC in my attic and, in my music room, a Pink Triangle Anniversary with an SME V arm and a Lyra Lydian cartridge which is the utter dog's b*******s (but it cost £4300 7 years ago so it ought to be). I have 800+ albums and still buy new pressings, mainly direct masters on 180g vinyl. They sound WONDERFUL but they cost far more than CDs!!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 30 2005 at 02:01 |
I think there's a little bit of exageration.
Altough it's true that's there has been some kind of low quality pressings, as says marktheshark, there are also good versions from 1978. For example, there are some japanese vynils versions of the early 80's
which are incredible, cause it's the apogee of analog technology.
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marktheshark
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Posted: April 30 2005 at 01:10 |
I agree with "Stoned" to some extent. Vinyl is warmer and more listenable. At least 'til 1979. After that, the quality just diminished to low grade vinyl quality and the use of 2nd and 3rd generation master tape copies to press them on for mass marketing. That's why I stuck with the audiophile LPs in the mid 80s where they used high-density virgin vinyl and the studio master tapes for pressing. They made LPs the way they were supposed be made like they did in the 60s and early 70s. Granted, there was a more limited availability in the selection dept on the audiophile LP circuit, but it was worth it. If I had a choice between a vinyl pressed off a 2nd or 3rd generation copy tape and a CD pressed off the studio master tape, I would have to go with the CD. Sorry. I know it's kind of sad, but oh well.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 13 2005 at 02:34 |
"If you wanna over drive your power amp tubes or burn out the output transformers belting rock out don't come running."
Is it a "professional" advice?
Where did you saw that?!!
That's what we do (me and my audiophile friends) and everything's ok.
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illustrated
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 18:51 |
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 10:34 |
we will hear everything...
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 08:33 |
oliverstoned wrote:
You are a little arsehole that reads too much & by the looks is obsessed.Stop reading & open your ears.
One time for all, i don't read any reviews
my ears are much better open than yours
you are in hifi from 25 years and you claim that tubes can't work for rock?
Tubes are the best in the high, there's no transistor amp in the world better than my jolida!
when a system really works , you can listen as well to opera or led zep, or jazz!
You don't know anything, that's obvious! |
I don't do i!
I use an Audio reaserch 'SP9'tube pre-amp dork!
If you wanna over drive your power amp tubes or burn out the output transformers belting rock out don't come running.
Your the one who knows nothing
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 08:29 |
oliverstoned wrote:
You are a big peasent
i learn you the basic
keep on dreaming on your yamaha tuner |
There you go again not reading english correctly.
I buy for to sell on ok!!!
I'm keeping the Marantz 10 for myself...
I sell on the Yamaha 'CT7000' because they sell for a lot of money.
All clear?
ok!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 07:42 |
You are a little arsehole that reads too much & by the looks is obsessed.Stop reading & open your ears.
One time for all, i don't read any reviews
my ears are much better open than yours
you are in hifi from 25 years and you claim that
tubes can't work for rock?
Tubes are the best in the high, there's no transistor amp in the world better than my jolida!
when a system really works , you can listen as well to opera or led zep, or jazz!
You don't know anything, that's obvious!
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Radioactive Toy
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Posted: April 12 2005 at 07:36 |
Karnevil9 wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
hey lets take an look at this.. yeah great teddy also!
I've had to buy it all... trade etc...
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Nice bed! |
wanna have a go?
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Yes Tidy your records up youg man
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Ah you could do loveley things with vinyl instead of playing it
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