What is the most psychedelic prog?

It all comes out the same in the wash, Dude!

Hey I don't believe anyone mentioned Iron Butterfly's  In-A-Gadda-Divida....

don't ask me, I always thought of the Butthole Surfers as a psychedelic band...Stereolab too

harry's toenail wrote: I would have thought that's a way of defining psychedelic music that doesn't really fit in a broad-minded discussion. I mean, that's the narrowest most limiting way of thinking of psychedelic music. Jefferson Airplane, Vanilla Fudge etc. - yes, these are 'psychedelic bands' firstly in the sense that they originated in the time when 'psychedelic music' was first being played all over the place. Compared to many of the 70's band I listed above, however, most so-called psychedelic bands pale in regards to how psychedelic they are. What I'm trying to say is that psychedelia didn't end in the 60's, it carried on through the 70's and beyond, partly buried amongst what folks here would think of as progressive rock. It's not a style that must be associated with 60's styles - if that's what you mean it'll be clearer to others if you talk of psych or sike rather than psychedelic music as such. As someone who lives it as he talks it and has experimented a great deal with psychedelics, I'd like to strongly assert that to limit 'real' psychedelic music to just the stuff from the 60's is both inaccurate and silly. I've met folks who think there's some firm barrier to be defeneded, between 'real' 60's psychedelic music and the so-called 'fake gimmicks' of bands who experimented with electronics and studio effects. I just laugh at how uptight such people must be to have to make such barriers, because they exist only in people's heads. What matters is the result, the effect the music has on the listener. Psychedelic means, roughly, mind manifesting, or something that makes the innermost workings of the mind apparent to ourselves. In the sense of 'real psychedelic music' as I see it and experience it, most 60's psych is mere kiddy stuff playing around the edges, whereas much of the stuff that has been swallowed by the genres of prog or so-called 'krautrock' represents the more seriously psychedelic stuff that dives right in there. There are exceptions of course but I'm just basically trying to debunk the notion that psychedelic prog isn't 'real' psychedelic music and that 60's rock is. I used to spend a fair bit of time on discussion forums for psychedelic plants, and people there would occasionally argue about the use of the word psychedelic. Some people felt that it associated their interests with boring vegan hippies and day-glo VW's, or more specifically, that it was a word that belonged only to the 60's and therefore to be remembered in association with the most embarassing elements from that time; others were more aware of the actual roots of the word, which had nothing to do with the cliche of 60's psychedelic culture and music (and everything to do with the exploration of the mind and soul), and as such were happy to continue using it, as after all, it is a very nice word to say and to look at on a page, and most of all, it is the most broadly appropriate term for what it describes. Words that have been suggested to replace it have drawn more arguments than 'psychedelic' [which to be technically correct should actually be spelled 'psychodelic']. Getting away from the point somewhat, but you now know what gets my goat!

I was trying to help Petra finding the bands that she is looking for not to discuss what is or what isn't psychedelic music.I don't know what is the era she wants to find--maybe with these bands I mentioned I will help her in some way.If not here is a lot of other stuff she can explore.

You know 100 people 100 explanations of what is psychedelic.I'm not so narrow minded like you may think but it's true that I'm stuck in the 60's and 70's because simply the other stuff-newer stuff leaves me cold and does not offer me any kind of joy listening to the music.And that is my basic and simplest way of thinking.Music is made for enjoying and not for phylosophing in 1000 words meaning of the "what is and what isn't".I leave that to the others and stay with my own explanation.I think everybody had his own explanation--like I think you wanted to say--how they experience the music and that is what matter's.

So I was'n defining what is psychedelic and the word """""real"""""" that you're so stucked on------I'm Slovenian as you can see and a lot of times I can't find the right word and I put the nearest word that I know(I'm not a professor of english).So that """real""" for correction---I ment kind of original---you know---the roots or something like that(and that these bands certaintly are).

So I think you are discussing here what is psychedelic and making barriers.In my own post I really can find that a was defining psychedelic and making barriers.If it's just a word ""real"" that makes that effect I'm sorry then.And than you said "if that's what you mean it'll be clearer to others if you talk of psych rather then psychedelic".I'm not sure if I undersand that sentence but are we drawering and hairsplitting??psych--psychedelic??Well,I never did that.Like the music that I really like the most is defined prog--or even psychedelic here I am.I saw that a lot of guys here like the same music so I'm happy to be here.In my town I really don't have anybody to discuss about this music.

And I'm always telling my own oppinions and definitions--my feelings experiencing the music.

Love you,man.

I agree 100%...Tiny's ukelele nuances are best appreciated when under the influence

Ah... Tiny Tim? You'll have to explain how he links in!

Steamhammer's Speech is quite different to the earlier stuff. Really, it's perhaps not trippy enough to have listed here but I love it so much my typing fingers couldn't hold back. In some ways it steps on from the long live track on Mountains, but in more of a space rock direction. [That is, space rock of their own design, they don't sound like any other 'space rock' bands I can think of except perhaps slight hints of elements of Hawkwind and Clear Blue Sky] Basically, they're stripped back to a g/b/d trio, and there's some subtle studio effects and interesting mixing to give it more psychedelic depth. There's 3 tracks. The first is a lengthy space trek of sorts with repetitive grooves but always building to new changes; it's pretty raw in the guitar department, with some of the roaring lines mixed a bit too loud in comparison to everything else, but that's only a slight complaint. Following this is a storming, complex, spacey prog metal number that just stomps everything in its path; then the album closes with another good track that is more or less an excuse for a fairly complex drum solo.

I've always been a bit miffed that even the liner notes to the Repertoire CD reissue seem to make out that this was their worst album, whereas from what I've heard [Mountains and a little bit of the Mk II-era stuff] it's easily their best. Anyway, I think the liner notes are the same for all of the Repertoire reissues of Steamhammer albums. Some time after this two of the members formed Armageddon with an ex-Captain Beyond member; they were also a pretty cool band, blending the hard rocking rhythmic strong-points of both prime Steamhammer and prime early Captain Beyond.

Don't forget German rock legends Jane. Jane III is pretty psychedelic as is, well, pretty much all Jane.

You know, it just have to sound like 10CC's I'm not in love, the weird bit!

I would have thought that's a way of defining psychedelic music that doesn't really fit in a broad-minded discussion. I mean, that's the narrowest most limiting way of thinking of psychedelic music. Jefferson Airplane, Vanilla Fudge etc. - yes, these are 'psychedelic bands' firstly in the sense that they originated in the time when 'psychedelic music' was first being played all over the place. Compared to many of the 70's band I listed above, however, most so-called psychedelic bands pale in regards to how psychedelic they are. What I'm trying to say is that psychedelia didn't end in the 60's, it carried on through the 70's and beyond, partly buried amongst what folks here would think of as progressive rock. It's not a style that must be associated with 60's styles - if that's what you mean it'll be clearer to others if you talk of psych or sike rather than psychedelic music as such. As someone who lives it as he talks it and has experimented a great deal with psychedelics, I'd like to strongly assert that to limit 'real' psychedelic music to just the stuff from the 60's is both inaccurate and silly. I've met folks who think there's some firm barrier to be defeneded, between 'real' 60's psychedelic music and the so-called 'fake gimmicks' of bands who experimented with electronics and studio effects. I just laugh at how uptight such people must be to have to make such barriers, because they exist only in people's heads. What matters is the result, the effect the music has on the listener. Psychedelic means, roughly, mind manifesting, or something that makes the innermost workings of the mind apparent to ourselves. In the sense of 'real psychedelic music' as I see it and experience it, most 60's psych is mere kiddy stuff playing around the edges, whereas much of the stuff that has been swallowed by the genres of prog or so-called 'krautrock' represents the more seriously psychedelic stuff that dives right in there. There are exceptions of course but I'm just basically trying to debunk the notion that psychedelic prog isn't 'real' psychedelic music and that 60's rock is.

I used to spend a fair bit of time on discussion forums for psychedelic plants, and people there would occasionally argue about the use of the word psychedelic. Some people felt that it associated their interests with boring vegan hippies and day-glo VW's, or more specifically, that it was a word that belonged only to the 60's and therefore to be remembered in association with the most embarassing elements from that time; others were more aware of the actual roots of the word, which had nothing to do with the cliche of 60's psychedelic culture and music (and everything to do with the exploration of the mind and soul), and as such were happy to continue using it, as after all, it is a very nice word to say and to look at on a page, and most of all, it is the most broadly appropriate term for what it describes. Words that have been suggested to replace it have drawn more arguments than 'psychedelic' [which to be technically correct should actually be spelled 'psychodelic'].

Getting away from the point somewhat, but you now know what gets my goat!

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Lard Free - Gilbert Artman's Lard Free; I'm Around About Midnight; III

Franco Leprino - Integrati... Disintegrati [no rock at all here, just a fascinating electroacoustic headtrip]

Magical Power Mako - Jump

Albert Marcoeur - Albert Marcoeur; Album a Colorier

Mushroom - Hydrogen Jukebox

Mythos - Mythos; Dreamlab

Neptune Towers - Caravans to Empire Algol

Nyl - Nyl

Pataphonie - Le Matin Blanc

People - Ceremony: Buddha Meet Rock

Pi Corp - Lost in the Cosmic Void

oh yeah, almost forgot Heldon - just about anything from the 70's!

love lost of earlier Pink Floyd, but no point trying to tell you about what you certainly know... [ not that I'm assuming the rest of this stuff is unknown to all of you]

Planet Gong - Live Floating Anarchy '77

PLJ Band - Armageddon

Pole - Besombes-Rizet

Pulsar - Pollen

Pyramid - Pyramid

Quiet Sun - Mainstream

A.R. & Machines - Due Grune Reise; Echo; III; IV; Autovision; Ehrolung

Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes - Ame Debout; Paix; Le Rat Debile et l'Homme des Champs

Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air

Terje Rypdal - Odyssey

Sensations Fix - Fragments of Light; Portable Madness

Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing

Soft - Shamanic Waveform

Spacecraft - Paradoxe

Steamhammer - Speech

Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation; Alpha Centauri; Atem

Steve Tibbetts - Steve Tibbetts

Touch - Touch [aka 20/20 Sound]

Verto - Krig/Volubilis

Visitors - Visitors

Igor Wakhevitch - all

Wapassou - Messe en Re Mineur

White Noise - An Electric Storm

Xhol Caravan - Electrip

Ya Ho Wha 13 - Penetration

Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass

Zanzibar Cob - Muirbiliuqesid

Zed - Visions of Dune

well, a  lot of that might not exactly blow your stack for you but there's a lot of good stuff there for trippiness factor... as you can tell I've spent a lot fo time in the past tripping and listening to things

[/QUOTGREAT LIST !