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ANDREW
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 09:28 | |
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Phil
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Posted: December 09 2005 at 06:26 | |
On Chris Squire's "Fish Out Of Water" (what I have just been playing!)
a church organ is heard on "Hold Out Your Hand", played by Barry Rose,
sub-organist of St Paul's though whether it is the St Paul's organ I
don't know.
On "Going for the One" Rick played a pipe organ in a church in Vevey (I think), the story goes that the sound was piped (sic) down the Swiss telephone lines to the studio, so good was the quality. He also used this organ on "Criminal Record". I don't have "Six Wives" to hand but the credits on it say in which church the pipe organ was recorded. I can't be sure, but I always assumed it was the same organ used on "Close to the Edge". Pipe organs are not easily transportable, not only their size - or at least some of them - but changes in temperature and humidity affect their sound. They need to be "voiced" (i.e. tuned) for their acoustic surroundings, usually of course a church. I believe though Rick Wakeman used a purpose built Mander pipe organ on stage from time to time. I don't play myself but have some interest as my Father was a church organist, and had a small pipe organ built in our house. As you can imagine, this was a talking point when visitors came. It was not a loud, thundering instrument but a subtle peice of work, with some delicate sounds. My Dad was a Fellow of one of the London music colleges (forgotten which) & was very much into getting the more delicate sounds out of the instrument. He died a couple of years back and my Mum donated the instrument to a London church, where it is used for the more delicate work, and choir practices. Although he never played "prog" he was into some of the more "prog-like" composers like Oliver Messian (may have mis-spelt that). His pet hate (and mine too as a choir boy) was when people asked for something totally unsuitable to be played on a pipe organ at their wedding ("Morning Has Broken" or "Three Times A Lady" spring to mind...) - usually he managed, tactfully, to dissuade them. Although he wasn't, some of his organ playing buddies were quite snobby about the instrument, which I thought was ridiculous, when you consider the pipe organ started out as a substitute for having an orchestra...sort of forerunner to the Mellotron/synth!! Sorry, I digress! |
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Publius
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 14 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 382 |
Posted: December 09 2005 at 05:40 | |
Hamburger Concerto!
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I'm so prog, I clap in 9/8
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samuel.jeronimo
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2005 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 132 |
Posted: December 09 2005 at 05:39 | |
In the garden of eden... |
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28412 |
Posted: December 09 2005 at 02:19 | |
I like a lot of the tracks mentioned, especially the ones by ELP,Par Lindh and Magenta
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ulver982
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 07 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 266 |
Posted: December 09 2005 at 00:42 | |
I know The Flower Kings have some songs with a church organ...can't think of any specifics right now.
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Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius.
Silence is the music of the future. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 22:58 | |
Sorry it's just a 30 seconds sampler, but will give you an idea: http://www.progrock.co.uk/samples/magenta/broken/opus3.mp3 Iván |
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Mnemosyne
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 21:25 | |
many Edgar Froese works have church organ... Well, also with a huge variety of other keyboards...
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I'm a Man-Owl-Fish.
Creator-Observer-Muse. |
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MANTICORE
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 20:43 | |
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CandyAppleRed
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 25 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 166 |
Posted: December 08 2005 at 17:13 | |
Candy Apple Red - "That Other Fear"
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 16:14 | |
You're mentining heavyweights. Iván |
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horza
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
Posted: December 08 2005 at 15:36 | |
Rick Wakeman - Criminal Record - Judas Iscariot
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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Easy Livin
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:46 | |
At live gigs, Wakeman tells an amusing tale of how his producer ask a London church for permission to record the organ there. When asked how much it would cost, the reply was "no charge". Over half the album budget was however eventually spent on donations to the "Roof fund", the "restoration fund" etc. |
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Jeremy Bender
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:42 | |
Rick Wakeman - Judas Iscariot Par Lindh Project - The Cathedral
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:18 | |
Opus III by Magenta, a Church Organ solo that gives me goosebumps. Rob Reed is an outstanding keyboardist. Iván |
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arcer
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 01 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1239 |
Posted: December 08 2005 at 14:17 | |
Glass Hammer - Shadowlands (ton of very loud church organ couple with some slide guitar histrionics for that all over Going for the One vibe)
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chopper
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 13:33 | |
The organ in Awaken (and Parallels) was played in a church and recorded down a telephone line! |
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Froth
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 13:28 | |
Much church organ on Gryphon's midnight mushrumps album
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goose
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 13:22 | |
Muse - Megalomania
Church organ? More like cathedral organ! |
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iguana
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Posted: December 08 2005 at 12:49 | |
yeah, check out the simpson's episode "bart sells his soul" if you can! this song will never be the same afterwards!!!!!!!! |
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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