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misiu 
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 Posted: December 07 2005 at 09:41 |
Guys are you kidding with this poll ???
Portnoy's drumming patterns are largely inspired by those of Neal Peart.
There is no drummer as inventive, technical and fast as Peart ...
and even Portnoy recognizes that Peart is better ... ;-)
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Deliriumist
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 09:31 |
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I belive I've never heard of mr. Portnoy (maybe someone could mention a band in one of the next posts)
Do fancy Peart though.
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Pirce
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Posted: December 07 2005 at 07:24 |
Jeah!MP takes the lead! ...He´s da man!
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Tommy
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 18:55 |
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I used to think Peart was the new Bruford or Palmer up until Moving Pictures but nothing since has impressed me. I voted Portnoy!
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Jezz
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 15:12 |
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MP is very cool but i do like the drum solo for yyz
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Uther Pendragon
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 14:11 |
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I'm a fan of Dream Theater but I must admit that I think Portnoy is
just basing his syle on Peart. This can be clearly seen in the drum
solo in the Live At Budokan dvd, where the solo just sounds like a bad
version of Neil Peart's'Rythmn Method'.
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"And so as I patrol in the valley of the shadow of the tricolour I must fear evil for I am but mortal and mortals can only die."
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TheLamb
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 11:40 |
I vote Portnoy even though I like Peart aswel.
I feel Portnoy is more a active part in the music he plays and I find he communicates better with the rest of the instruments. Peart on the other hand does this alot less and he is more about extreeme technical flawlessness.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 09:08 |
 Cygnus wrote:
For example a drumm solo from Neil Peart is a part of music, a drumm solo from Portnoy is very fast and skilled drumming. |
Funny you should mention drum solo. I was just thinking about the comparison last night and I realized that Peart crafts his solos. Portnoy's solos, at least what I heard, seem more random and chaotic. At the end of a Peart solo, I feel like I just listened to a song. But based on what I know about him, it is no surprise. He is a very well though out, complete thinker and I have never known him to do anything half-assed. Even the song New World Man, which was just throw together to fill album space (heard this on an old Rush radio interview) has decent drums parts. 
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Bj-1
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 07:54 |
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Portnoy is better technically, but Peart is fantastic too (and he writes MUCH better lyrics)
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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ANDREW
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 06:41 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
Without Peart, I daresay there would be no Portnoy. I admire both musicians heavily.
Portnoy is much flashier, but the depth of Peart's lyrics is no match to Portnoy's attempts.
The reality? They are islands to each other.
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I AGREE
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Cygnus
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 06:28 |
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Mike is as skilled as Peart I think(ok maybe Neil is a litle bit better) but he doesn't have this musicality in his playing. For example a drumm solo from Neil Peart is a part of music, a drumm solo from Portnoy is very fast and skilled drumming.
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iguana
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 04:36 |
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neal "the professor" peart (does anyone remember
that his initial nickname with lerxst and dirk used to
be "pratt"?) by a lightyear. both may be equally skilled
on the drumkit as of now, however, put them up
against each other (admittedly a GHASTLY thought)
and portnoy still looks like an over-motivated and
eagerly-fidgety upstart. sorry mike – good on yer'
anyway, VERY MUCH looking forward to OSI2!
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Pirce
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 04:31 |
Somehow I knew this was coming.....Just dont vote for NP because his older and more "experienced". Listen to Portnoy´s "Duel with the Devil" from the second Transatlantic album. And then you´ll see who´s smoother and has a better ear for music!!
Portnoy´s just better both technically and MUSICALLY!IMHO. And believe me I know, because I have listened MP every recording a thousand times....
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Norbert
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Posted: December 06 2005 at 02:35 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
Without Peart, I daresay there would be no Portnoy. I admire both musicians heavily.
Portnoy is much flashier, but the depth of Peart's lyrics is no match to Portnoy's attempts.
The reality? They are islands to each other.
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I agree with this.
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Drew
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 23:35 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
I admire Portnoy but......
No one beats The Professor!!!!!!!!!!
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Right on
Portnoy goets all of his inspiration form.................Peart
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Catholic Flame
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 21:50 |
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Peart
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“Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.”
~Jack Kerouac
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 21:35 |
I admire Portnoy but......
No one beats The Professor!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 21:33 |
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I chose Petrucci in the other poll, but I'll take Peart here.
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Bt-Tor
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 21:23 |
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Reminds of the same comparison between Lifeson and Petrucci. I think Portnoy may be technically superior to Peart however, Peart is much smoother and has a better ear for the music. He manages to creates a smoothness to odd-time signatures of Lifeson and Lee's writing approach. Peart truly brings them together. Whereas Portnoy is flashy and has all the moves but he sometimes sounds a bit clunky, like he's biting off more than he can chew. But again I still really enjoy Portnoy's work just a little too complicated then it seems necessary sometimes... Peart seems to have a more balanced stance on subtlety and bombast.
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zachfive
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Posted: December 05 2005 at 21:05 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
Without Peart, I daresay there would be no Portnoy. I admire both musicians heavily.
Portnoy is much flashier, but the depth of Peart's lyrics is no match to Portnoy's attempts.
The reality? They are islands to each other.
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You made me pull out Permanent Waves and listen to that dam song.
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