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Poll Question: which band do punks hate the most
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6 [8.70%]
9 [13.04%]
1 [1.45%]
0 [0.00%]
7 [10.14%]
2 [2.90%]
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6 [8.70%]
2 [2.90%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2005 at 17:58

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

I also think that punks hate ELP the most, but I think it's reasonable, for Christ's sake even half of proggers hate them

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sad but somehow true...Im not one of them!

Yes, ELP were the more hated band in the late seventies...Also Pink Floyd, but thouse punks didnt affect Floyds sells...ELP´s sells went doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooownnnnnnnnn...

Yes was also very hated!!!

But what is very strange is that a lot of prog musicians (who were affected with the punk movement) actually respect punk quite a lot! And not only progers, but also other bands, like Led Zeppelin...Robert Plant said that althought the punks were against them they were one of the most important and one of the best thinks to happend to music...weird right?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 15:28
Originally posted by Charles Charles wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey.

 

Joy Division..

Peter Hook worshipped Hawkwind and cites Lemmy as his major influence...

Ian Curtis was responsible for introducing the band to Kraftwerk...

Barney Sumner loved David Bowie and also cites Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music as one of his influences...

Stephen Morris had many influences on his drumming, but the Jaki Leibeizeit influence is obvious...

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true ive also read that Pete Shelly Of The Buzzcocks loved Can and alot of krautrock 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 00:29
I also think that punks hate ELP the most, but I think it's reasonable, for Christ's sake even half of proggers hate them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:15

"How do you spell 'pretentious'?"

"E-L-P"

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Actually, I read somewhere that the aforementioned "I Hate Pink Floyd" shirt was one of the two reasons that Rotten was hired as a vocalist for the Sex Pistols (the other being that he had green hair at the time). 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:59

If they've ever had ELP, they would just

DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:59
Don't know if anyone has allready said this but..........Who gives a flying FU*K who punk fans don't like? F Punk!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:52

I voted Rush, all of the punks that i know here absolutely hate Rush, so i go on and on about how i'm a prog fanboy and how prog will always be the ultimate form of music.  As far as the most hated bands among punks I'd go with these.

Rush- Very artistic, and somewhat cheesey when they added keyboards.  Plus, they hate Geddy's voice.

ELP- Used the Moog to it's fullest extent.  Punks hate anything that isn't a sh*tty drumset or a distorted guitar.

Dream Theater- This is the most modern embodyment of anit-punk.  The lyrics are conceptual, the guitars and keyboards trade solos, and all of the members are skilled.  The songs are quite long.  Every fan i know of hard, fast, and somewhat crappy music hates Dream Theater.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 20:29

ELP embodied everything punk was against:

1. complicated songs

2. needing talent to play instruments

3. lyrics that didn't sound like a 5-year old had written them

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 19:25
Genesis.  Punks can actually take a listen to some of Pink Floyd stuff (as their recent sucess following Live 8 proved) but Genesis can be demeaned so easily by relating everything to Phil Collins and the 80's 'work.'
'So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?'
'You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 18:16
I know that punks hated prog, but you'd have thought that they'd have been bedfellows.  After all, they WERE groundbreaking...and no one had heard anything of the sort when either genre came about.  BTW...what was the first punk album?  The 1st prog album?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 18:05
Punk must die
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:39

Originally posted by zabriskiepoint zabriskiepoint wrote:

Peter Hamill invented punk in one of his solo albums, the one which has the cover of his face, split in two.

 

Be very careful when mentioning that....

The Who in the Mid Sixties, MC5, Roxy Music, The New York Dolls, Iggy Pop all predate Peter Hammill...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:35
Originally posted by Gentle Tull Gentle Tull wrote:

I chose Pink Floyd.

Punks need everything quick and simple. Pink floyd was very slow.

But Pink Floyd Were one of the less Complex Prog Bands still complex though

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:23
Peter Hamill invented punk in one of his solo albums, the one which has the cover of his face, split in two.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:16

I chose Pink Floyd.

Punks need everything quick and simple. Pink floyd was very slow.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:05
Originally posted by goose goose wrote:

Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

I chose Tull. Folk is definitely not cool in the punk world.

I think The Pogues, Flogging Molly and a fair few other groups might disagree with you there.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:21
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Yes, Queen was also a target. I read in a Dutch music magazine that Johnny Rotten once met Freddy Mercury, and that Johnny said: "Well, Fred, you've really introduced ballet to the masses, haven't you?" and that Freddy said indifferently: "We do our best, mr. Wild Man, we do our best"

I also read that Mercury got on quite well with Sid Vicious (The Pistols and Queen were recording in adjacent studios - the mind fairly boggles) and would greet him with a camply drawled 'Good morning, Mr Ferocious, and how are you today?'

Even more bizarre was Ian Anderson getting asked for an autograph by Johnny Ramone. Anderson checked out the Ramone's show and greatly admired the way they got straight to the point.

Captain Sensible talked about his admiration for Soft Machine in the Q/Mojo prog special. 

A couple of months ago (New York) on PBS was a documentary on the Ramones. Johnny Ramone said that he liked ELP and they showed  a one minute clip of vintage ELP. He decided that he could never be a musician of their caliber.

 


 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:20
I recall ELP got the biggest bashing at the time. Didn't UK Subs come up with 'Bus fare for the common man' as their response to 'fanfare....'

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:07

Although Tears For Fears is more on New Wave side, the song "I Believe" was dedicated to Robert Wyatt... And both also list Peter Hammill as seminal influences... As do Martin Gore of Deche Mode...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:06
if you look at it maybe the punks didn't hate prog as much after all. Maybe they wanted to do something different. Ever think of that? The punks were just as revolutionary as the proggers, even though prog is still the superior music .
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