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moshkito
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Hi, I'm not sure that you are getting the gist of what I'm saying. There is no such thing as good or bad in lyrics, though we might think that some things don't seem right ... any actor KNOWS that one word can be said in 100 different ways, and something written this way or that would likely sound great sung this way, and horrible that way and we would say the lyrics were bad. And these days, with the Internet, it is even "worse" ... in earlier days we had what was thought of as education, and then literature, and since then it's like ... it doesn't matter ... it's just weird to think that Neal Morse or anyone listed is about bad prog lyrics ... they would not be doing their work if they did not believe in what they do and how. And "prog" is not the worst offender, if there is such a thing ... I would imagine that yummy yummy I got love in my tummy is really bad ... and almost 60 years old, too! Heck some folks find Chuck Berry lyrics offensive, though you're going to say it's not prog.
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I mean. It's not the first time you COMPLETELY ignore the general idea of a forum topic and instead write some vanilla commentary semi-realated to it. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133744 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133761 Edited by Hrychu - November 12 2024 at 02:59 |
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moshkito
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Hi,
This is really tough ... I tend to the odd stuff and more experimental, and in that material, the "lyrics" are often a joke, and just a bunch of letters and reminds me of Eno/DBowie way back when putting up what we call 52 pickup ... throwing the card deck up in the air and where it lands, so it is!!! ... and there were a lot of lyrics done by many folks that defy any ideas. I always loved that stuff, because we were all way too inclined to follow the religiosity in the book for its "meaning" ... with total disregard to the fact that these were translations that had been corrupted for years to create an imaginary world for us to believe in ... and guess what is happening here? I'm not sure that there is/are enough "poets" out there that write stuff and all of it is special ... I'm partial to folks like Roy Harper, where the wording is special a lot of the time ... but that is not something that is appreciated by people that think "meaning" is important ... in the end, it isn't, I never thought ... but a well placed lyric or set of words will always stand up ... and it all kinda becomes a sort of Prufrock ... women, come and go thinking of Michelangelo ... and we do the same thing! Some think that Peter Hammill is another one way out there ... but his ability is endless and his images are well done, however personal ... genuflection in church ... so to speak ... and some folks don't like it and don't think of it as poetry, or lyrics. Bob Dylan is another ... I think he cares more for the poetry side of it than he does the meaning, knowing that tomorrow he is going to say and sing it differently ... the same song! Likewise, how do we explain that folks loved Can with Damo, and he had no lyrics ... he was not about lyrics per se ... but the sounds and feelings that came through added something to the music that was neat. BUT, we forget that at the time, there was a HUGE theatrical element experimenting with sound and voice in the theater, and how far to take it ... to make it "real", if possible. But for that to happen we had to throw away the ideas about "meaning", and that is something that we feel we need, and in reality, we don't. We have enough for ourselves in our lives as it is.
Edited by moshkito - November 11 2024 at 18:54 |
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Hrychu
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Hey! There have been a couple of "best" or "favorite" prog lyricist thread. But now, let's talk about our least favorite lyricists in progressive rock for a change. List your picks and include 'samples' of their worst lyric writing. Alright. I'll go first.
5. Jon Anderson Cast off your garments of fear, replace them with love Most of all play with the game of the age Highest of places remain all as one with you Giving us light and the freedom of the day And if that firelight, I could match the inner flame Sacred ships do sail the seventh age 4. Neal Morse No, no - no corporate ladder No hometown parade The fat cats just keep getting fatter What does it matter 3. Ronald Brand Noise replaces calmness now Cramed is the tube Sweet smells of industry Breathe the society 2. Patrick Dubuis At king, at king together now ! Death to, death to, the tyrant ! We'll kill the king and his thieves with him ! No chance, no one will escape. Come on against the tyrant ! We'll kill the king and his thieves with him ! 1. Roine Stolt Here she comes again, smiling like a horse |
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On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.
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