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David_D
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I'm not sure here that you've seen it, as what I have in mind is the kind of answer which is based on some "objective" criteria like in this post of mine:
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David_D
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Yes, that's what I had been thinking too, so actually, I got some suprised by seeing the statistics from RYM's chart. |
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I'm still thinking...1971 has some of my favorite albums ever, but there's a lot up to 1976. I'd say the decade 1967-1976 is my era.
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I think it would be near impossible to not take personal tastes into consideration when deciding what is the best year. Of course ultimately it's subjective. That said, you are right in that one should try to be as objective as possible. So even if tales from topographic oceans is your favorite Yes album but you don't think it's their best and you think The Yes Album or Close to the Edge is then vote for the year that corresponds to that album. Then of course you would have to factor in albums from other bands as well.
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^ I appreciated your methodology, David, but of course there is going to be personal bias (subjectivity) in what method one chooses. Of course there were some years where Progressive Rock as we know it especially a narrower genre/style (less so approach methinks for this example) had peaked in output, prominence, and popularity.
As for the OP's intentions, I guess those often get clearer as the discussions with the OP develop and become more sophisticated and specific over time. Then one can hone in on different methodologies. 72 and 73 are often considered peak years (1973 especially). This kind of topic has been done many times (nothing wrong with that) and the results seem consistent with those done in the past from my memory. Edited by Logan - September 13 2024 at 09:59 |
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David_D
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There have been many subjective answers here, but I have certainly the impression that the OP is asking for some more objective ones, meaning, not just based on personal tastes and preferences. |
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Cristi
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plenty too choose from |
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Logan
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1970 is awesome. Magma's debut, Soft Machine's Third, VdGG's The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each, OtherAmon Düül II's Yeti, Linda Perhacs' Parallelograms, Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother, Supersister's Present From Nancy, Miles Davis' Bitches Brew, Gentle Giant's s/t, Miroslav Vitous' Infinite Dance, Pentangle's Cruel Sister etc. I will go with 1971 for VdGG's Pawn Hearts, Serge Gainsbourg's Histoire de Melody Nelson, Can's Tago Mago, Comus' First Utterance, Igor Wakhévitch's Docteur Faust, Gentle Giant's Acquiring the Taste, Ash Ra Tempel, Bjorn J:son Lindh's Från storstad till grodspad, Spirogyra's St. Radigunds, Popol Vuh's In den Gärten Pharaos, A.R. & Machines's Die Grüne Reise, Earth & Fire's Song of the Marching Children, Egg's The Polite Force, Roy Harper's Stormcock etc. Every Prog year has lots of awesome and relevant releases in my collection, but some have more than others. I approach these topics subjectively based on what I know, remember, and even my mood. While I think it would be fair to say that Prog has had its classic peak years, my tastes cover a spectrum of music. For my collection, I don't care much if it's even considered Prog. I like lots of different kinds of music from lots of years. One can think of these sorts of things as just trying to think through a way to come to a year. I would not pooh-pooh that. It can be creative. And I think it's good to be challenged to think out of ones own boxes, and into others, and try to come up with an answer using some methodology. We are challenging each other every time we come up with such topics, and to me that is fun. Wish more did topics, more support of each other's topics, that there was a wider variety of topics, and a wider appreciation of kinds of topics and more discussion in polls. But no complaints, the forum is not as lively as it once was. |
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Edited by Hrychu - September 13 2024 at 09:28 |
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2019 for me.
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Cristi
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So no albums in 1971?!
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I also think 1973.
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Selecting a (for me, favorite not best) year in music is a bit silly or pointless. I know. But I have a brain that occasionally works a little like that, and there's nothing I can do to prevent it. I know I've looked through my collection of jazz albums too and thought to myself "Goodness, to think that all of these masterworks were released in 1964! Surely my favorite year in jazz". -But it doesn't really mean anything. I didn't buy any of them because of the year of it's release. It's just something I've noticed. No different than noticing I have a lot of Jazz albums recorded at Van Gelder Studio. |
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Out of my alltime favorite albums, I took only those that were made in the 70s, and counted how many records from each year of that decade there were on my list. And it turns out that 1976 is the winner (9 albums), while 1978 is second place (8 albums). :)
*Though, keep in mind that my list consists of prog music from all over the world, and not just the 1st World Commonwealth countries. |
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Hi,
I have no idea how to make a choice here. I listen to music for the work and its color, and while it all came alive for me in 1971/1972, I never thought that a specific year was more important than another ... it's weird ... for me all music in timeless ... not set in stone to one year or time period. We don't look at Beethoven and say that 1813 was his greatest year! I simply don't understand how we continue to think and look at "progressive music" as just another song ... most of it in those early days was NOT JUST A SONG! And that would have been the main reason why folks in the independent FM Radio in America played them! To get away from the song mentality of the 2 minute Light My Fire!
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1972 for me, though the whole era was fantasic.
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Toss up between '72 and '73 - can't vote.
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Ten good reasons why 1973 was the best year for prog.
1973: Alquin - Mountain Queen - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lL9UH8vvgWEIW6w0k3bmtIyatPqvGhrQA 1973: Earth and Fire - Atlantis - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mT836EXK6039W5qzIcsA-RS1HGQF1DMhg 1973: Fantasy - Paint a Picture - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpLn9olqC2rMHQwL7wWMmAqk 1973: Fruupp - Future Legends - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG2ZW6QrhcM 1973: Genesis - Selling England by the Pound - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kkgAn92SdFt_nUYmDjGo8jyKGKnQ_AM8Q 1973: Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv_4sZCLlr0 1973: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1x-JAx0w53suECoCI0YJtW6VB8DBQWRQ 1973: Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kLlzvwRGj185pGq9yYhveAzan1m0qWHbQ 1973: Spirogyra - Bells, Boots & Shambles - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9YrdTGfv1Q 1973: Rick Wakeman - The Six Wives of Henry VIII - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J00015lLDM
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If looking at RYM's chart for 150 highest rated Progressive Rock albums for the years 1971-76 (with popularity weighting on 4), so many albums are on it from each year: 1971 - 27 1972 - 25 1973 - 29 1974 - 29 1975 - 25 1976 - 15 ( https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/1971-1976/g:progressive%2drock/pop:4/ ) On that basis, I'd say, it's hardly possible to point at any year(s) in the period 1971-75 as the best one(s).
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