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Virtually anybody in Turkey was thinking that Michael Jackson "became" white via plastic surgery, because he was ashamed to be black. It is heart-rendering that most of us still think so. I learnt that he was a vitiligo sufferer and had skin cancer thereafter, but most of the people whomever I talk to about it still learn that from me. I learnt this after MJ's tragic death from his interview with Oprah Winfrey which was conducted/broadcasted in the '90s. He also said there that he was a proud black.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2021 at 12:52
When I discovered what would become my favourite band-Germany's Triumvirat -in 1985, and I read the credits on the back of my lp copy of "Illusions On A Double Dimple", I assumed that Lead vocalist/bass and 6 and 12 string guitarist Helmut Koellen who was listed on the record was still living-sometimes you just automatically assume things-but then read the depressing news on "The Triumvirat Bio" published on the net in the 1990s that poor Helmut had died way back on May 3rd, 1977! It hurt when I read that he was a member of "The 27 Club", but at least I found out what had happened.
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When I was a kid, I was thinking that Modern Talking is an American band. Then, a couple of years ago, I told this to an American friend of mine during a bar chat; he said that he also was thinking that MT is "their" band. They are not only German but also a duo. LOL BTW, when Modern Talking "came" to Turkey via audial and visual mediums, I was 4-5 years old or so. That American friend of mine is 15-20 years older than me. So, the fact that even an adult could be "fooled" about it means that my wrong assumption was not embarrassing at all.

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I remember the first time I heard a live album (Moody Blues Caught Live +5) and the side opened with crowd noise, I thought it was something wrong with the record.
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

In the beginning (i.e. early teens) I thought that quality and beauty were objective notions, so I thought that it was impossible not to like Kayak's Merlin suite... until I met someone who really didn't like it (first I thought he was lying...).


I think it is within the scope of egocentric bias, and according to the developmental psychology field, it is a normal aspect of the teen mindset. Similarly, during childhood it is normal that one thinks everybody also knows something s/he knows. Good that we/people mature (though I'm not sure that everybody does)!

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In the beginning (i.e. early teens) I thought that quality and beauty were objective notions, so I thought that it was impossible not to like Kayak's Merlin suite... until I met someone who really didn't like it (first I thought he was lying...).

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That anyone not listening to and loving ELP were ignorant about music.
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

When I first "heard" growl and scream vocals in the late '80s or early '90s, I assumed that the "singers"(?) might not be human.  

What did you think they were?


Well, I was between 7-9 years old or so then. I guess it was like, "hey aliens can be real," kind of thinking. Monsters are amongst us!!! LOL
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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:


I was always generalizing drums that don't have an acoustic timbre as "drum machine"; especially if they were also flawlessly played. I was so sure about this. You know, a fake sound and a nonhuman impeccability. This lasted till the early 2000s.

Yeah... I was for quite some time convinced that I could reliably tell apart what's human and what's machine. Not true. Confused
Both can human beings make themselves astonishingly machine-like, and sampling technology quickly became more "real sounding" than I'd have liked to admit.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

When I first "heard" growl and scream vocals in the late '80s or early '90s, I assumed that the "singers"(?) might not be human.  

What did you think they were?


Well, I was between 7-9 years old or so then. I guess it was like, "hey aliens can be real," kind of thinking. Monsters are amongst us!!! LOL

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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

When I first "heard" growl and scream vocals in the late '80s or early '90s, I assumed that the "singers"(?) might not be human.  

What did you think they were?
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For long time I thought the band Pagan Altar was some black metal, after all with such a name what can it be? Well it's some really good doom metal LOL. A must listen for clean vocals doom. Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Shadowyzard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2021 at 13:20
When I first "heard" growl and scream vocals in the late '80s or early '90s, I assumed that the "singers"(?) might not be human. (I wasn't a metalhead then, and I heard such stuff from one of my cousins' thrash/death metal audio cassettes.)

When I became a metalhead in, I guess, 1991; I saw the terms "lead guitars" and "bass guitars" in the booklets; and assumed that bass guitars are the lead guitar riffs and lead guitars are the guitar solos.

I was always generalizing drums that don't have an acoustic timbre as "drum machine"; especially if they were also flawlessly played. I was so sure about this. You know, a fake sound and a nonhuman impeccability. This lasted till the early 2000s.

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