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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, I wound up voting for Yes because I think they are the band most closely associated with prog. There are a lot of people who vaguely know what prog is but at least know Yes are considered prog rock. Many(if not most)of them probably don't know who King Crimson are(and some probably never even heard of them). Pink Floyd are not as closely associated with prog as Yes are imo. 

The exact same reason I voted Yes. This seems to be what the OP was looking for.

Yeah, I suppose so. Yes has been one of the most defining bands of prog, and has always been associated with prog, despite 90125.
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Originally posted by Awesoreno Awesoreno wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, I wound up voting for Yes because I think they are the band most closely associated with prog. There are a lot of people who vaguely know what prog is but at least know Yes are considered prog rock. Many(if not most)of them probably don't know who King Crimson are(and some probably never even heard of them). Pink Floyd are not as closely associated with prog as Yes are imo. 

The exact same reason I voted Yes. This seems to be what the OP was looking for.

Great post, and agreed!

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Of course the most successful prog bands of all time were Welcome (Switzerland) and Banzai (Belgium)

Jokes aside, I think it's Yes.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Ok, I wound up voting for Yes because I think they are the band most closely associated with prog. There are a lot of people who vaguely know what prog is but at least know Yes are considered prog rock. Many(if not most)of them probably don't know who King Crimson are(and some probably never even heard of them). Pink Floyd are not as closely associated with prog as Yes are imo. 

The exact same reason I voted Yes. This seems to be what the OP was looking for.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

KC aren't hugely famous, though everyone who's heard of prog rock has heard of KC. I'd say Genesis because, like Pink Floyd, they're pretty well known outside of prog and thus can inspire musicians who aren't familiar with prog, and like KC, have done some genre defining stuff. However, what I can't give them credit for is being like King Crimson and going on making different music into oblivion, so I'd say IMO KC and PF would be joint second.
Well I agree Crimson is not famous with the ordinary people, who music commonly doesnīt mean much. But I believe every serious music listener and really every musician know KC. You have to also understand that there are many, who hate Floyd, Yes, Genesis & ELP in punk/alternative music listeners, but really havenīt heard anybody hate KC in that group. Jethro is also band that seems to get respect, but KC much more.
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Ok, I wound up voting for Yes because I think they are the band most closely associated with prog. There are a lot of people who vaguely know what prog is but at least know Yes are considered prog rock. Many(if not most)of them probably don't know who King Crimson are(and some probably never even heard of them). Pink Floyd are not as closely associated with prog as Yes are imo. 
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Agreed here, but...
Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

Outside of prog.....right now, that's probably KC. I'm hearing them pop up everywhere in the mainstream now. Every basic bitch getting into the Crimson.

I think I've only heard KC in a public place 5 times.

Does that include KC concerts? LOL

I think I only heard them one time in public and that was in the parking lot of a book store. A guy was  playing something from Discipline in his car. This guy was pretty crazy because he claimed to be the guy who wrote the lyrics to some of their seventies albums. I know he was lying because he said the guy's name wrong(he was pretending to be Richard Palmer James). LOL I really can't think of anytime hearing them in public other than that one time though oddly enough. There was a guy playing a mixed KC disc(or tape) in his suv cd player but I won't count that because that was in the parking garage during a prog festival. Wink
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

I think I've only heard KC in a public place 5 times

I guess I just meant the amount of people I've spoken to irl who now know of KC (well, ITCOTCK anyway) because of anime or Kanye. It's building up. 

Also weird hearing Starless at the beginning of the movie 'Mandy' as well.
I also reckon that Fripp is becoming meme-worthy in the realm of anime.
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Agreed here, but...
Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

Outside of prog.....right now, that's probably KC. I'm hearing them pop up everywhere in the mainstream now. Every basic bitch getting into the Crimson.

I think I've only heard KC in a public place 5 times.
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Floyd and Genesis. They are household names and the members are quite well-off.
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If not successful -regarding money- then....going with KC.....btw a poll here in 2017 asked the most influential
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Floyd
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ELP
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Outside of prog.....right now, that's probably KC. I'm hearing them pop up everywhere in the mainstream now. Every basic bitch getting into the Crimson. 

Also big in the anime scene. My younger brother rambled on for 5 minutes about 'JoJo's bizarre adventure' the first time I mentioned King Crimson to him.
It's Crimson-mania....well maybe not to that extent, yet.
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Most people like KC, I'll admit that.

Most people who like prog anyway. Wink 
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Most people like KC, I'll admit that.
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I think itīs absolutely KC, it really has influenced most outside prog from those bands, there are even 2000`s alternative music fans that love KC.

There's alternative and metal fans who like KC. The same thing with Porcupine Tree. I would say all of these bands probably have some kind of following or fans outside of strictly prog circles though. That's what happens when a band reaches a certain level of fame and notoriety. With some it's probably more on the classic rock side(PF, ELP, Yes) and with others it's more indie and alternative(KC and PF and to some degree Rush). Genesis probably are a mixture of those with probably a lot of "pop" fans also. Most metal fans are probably more into Rush, KC and PF then any of the others though.


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KC aren't hugely famous, though everyone who's heard of prog rock has heard of KC. I'd say Genesis because, like Pink Floyd, they're pretty well known outside of prog and thus can inspire musicians who aren't familiar with prog, and like KC, have done some genre defining stuff. However, what I can't give them credit for is being like King Crimson and going on making different music into oblivion, so I'd say IMO KC and PF would be joint second.
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I think itīs absolutely KC, it really has influenced most outside prog from those bands, there are even 2000`s alternative music fans that love KC.
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OP either needs to reframe his premise or change the title of this thread because he's asking the very question he insists he doesn't want the answer to based on his own criteria, lmao.

I'd argue 9 out of 10 people will recognize the name Pink Floyd, less will know Genesis, ELP, and Yes - the rest don't stand a chance lol.

Pink Floyd even though they aren't my favorite, it's obvious they are the most successful.

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I'd like the OP to make it BOLD it's not about commercial success.... or even rethink the title, because frankly, successful = wealth + fame + recognition, mostly!

Back to the topic.

Pink Floyd - inspired many people outside of prog, but their most "famous" albums are easy listening really
Genesis - too little recognition in the 70s, maybe the most "obscure" of the lot in pre-Duke era. It must be said they influenced a heck load of bands later on, especially in the Neo Prog days
Yes - well they had recognition in prog days, had the money, inspired some artists - although their style and technical prowess was hard to mimic. Definitely a very successful and quintessential band, could be my pick
Rush - not that proggy, I think they influenced the nerdy crowd and maybe 90s prog metal, but for prog rock, they arrived too late
ELP - maybe the biggest name in prog rock, commercially, in the 1970-73 era. Emerson was a household name, Lake was too, and they lived up to the hype. They really fell out of favor later and never really "redeemed" themselves outside of prog circles. As richardh mentioned, "self parody" was a problem

So I pick King Crimson
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Nearly impossible this
Floyd - made 3 fantastic albums but then 'died' as the band started to split apart
Genesis - nowhere near 'interesting enough'. Banks didn't embrace the keyboard tech enough
Yes - far too hung up on the whole cosmic thing it almost became a parody of itself
Rush - Yawn , not even really 'progressive'
ELP - Like Yes became a bit of a parody of itself especially around the time of Fanfare For The Common Man

so the clear winner is King Crimson

NEVER became a parody of itself.
ALWAYS remained fresh and inventive
STILL sold plenty of albums
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