The "punk" appreciation thread

Yes, Siouxsie & Co were around in '76 (perhaps even earlier but it took them a long time to get signed) and the Stranglers also answered the roll call. I was only ever drawn to the Banshees around Kaleidoscope (1980) when they had matured into, for all intents and purposes, a 'Post-Punk' benchmark. The Stranglers have always struck me as indelibly shaped by psychedelia and a 60's trash aesthetic. That said, I agree they were both pivotal in the development of nascent Punk without necessarily endorsing the movement's values or signature style.

That's interesting as I didn't anticipate you would hold that view. I guess it depends on who you consider is included in the 'first wave' of Punk e.g. in the UK, apart from the Pistols, The Damned, the Ramones, the Adverts and say, the Vibrators,  I can't recall many more who actually grabbed my attention musically. Which begs the question: am I the only Clash fan in history that doesn't rate the debut album? (Probably and I still don't to this day :the Clash became a brilliant rock band but were an incredibly over-hyped Punk one) Yes, the proffered timelines become blurrier with every passing year but just for a semblance of clarity, the usual suspects: Television, Blondie, NY Dolls, Patti Smith, Talking Heads, Stranglers, Boomtown Rats, Heartbreakers, Voidoids, Stooges, Undertones, Eddie & the Hot Rods, Buzzcocks, Jam, Saints et al were all bands whose output I have enjoyed but they have precious little to do with Punk apart from a feisty attitude and a disdain for what might have been perceived as naive hippy values.

Hi,

I think this clarity of your understanding just shows how much some folks listen to music ... it sounds like ... and who cares about the music work itself.

This is one of the reasons why I keep saying ... unplug it ... and you know right away who is good and who is not, and this band would make it real quick! 

my personal favorite is "Black and White", but "Rattus Norvegicus" is excellent too