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lunaticviolist
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:58 |
I've often asked myself this question. I have to go with Carpet Crawlers. I read somewhere that this track was written at the last minute. Sounds great, though.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:23 |
Schizoid Man wrote:
"Back in N.Y.C" is my personal fav.
This song's imagery is so completely unlike the earlier, melodic, fairy-tale songs.
This song is raw, real and delivers emotionally using both lyrics and music.
Wasn't it the only song from "Lamb", and, indeed, Genesis, that Peter played on his first solo tour?
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You ought to here Kevin Gilbert's version of Back in NYC on the Genesis tribute cd.
Awesome.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:22 |
Back in NYC,also really like In the Cage.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:10 |
FragileDT wrote:
Everytime I hear that live version with Phil singing I want to shoot myself.
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Everytime I hear that live version with Phil singing I want to shoot PHIL
When he says "in this cage" and just cuts off. It's almost like the song is completely dead.
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Yeap it's frustrating, it's anti climatic. Peter makes the suffering longer, creates suspense, expectation, paranoia, blind terror. Phil just cuts it, and it's over, he lost the mood of the song.
But I hate more when he sings The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway in Second's Out and repeats the last word
And the lamb lies down...down, down, down
Holy God how I hate that.
Iván
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FragileDT
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:23 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
In the Cage, but the original version by Peter
Gavriel only.
This is a song in which the vocalist has to transmit the panic, angerm
frustration, claustrophobia and sadness opf Rael being trapped in the
cave and his brother leaving him.
NOBODY can transmit such a variety of strong feelings as Peter
Gabriel, his semi yodeling is almost like a cry for help and a fading shout
of panic, when he describes the claustrophobia symptoms I almost feel
like trapped with him.
Shut me in, lock me tight.Lips are dry, throat is dry.Feel like
burning, stomach churning,I'm dressed up in a white costumePadding out
leftover room.Body stretching, feel the wretchingIn the cageGet me out of
this cage!
Phil has a one tone voice, when he wants to add emotion he only
shouts while Peter with a single inflection of his voice without the need of
a shout transmits different messages.
This is IMO the most emotive song of all Genesis career and by far the
best of The Lamb, made by and for Peter Gabriel.
Iván |
Everytime I hear that live version with Phil singing I want to shoot myself.
When he says "in this cage" and just cuts off. It's almost like the song is
completely dead.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Schizoid Man
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:19 |
"Back in N.Y.C" is my personal fav.
This song's imagery is so completely unlike the earlier, melodic, fairy-tale songs.
This song is raw, real and delivers emotionally using both lyrics and music.
Wasn't it the only song from "Lamb", and, indeed, Genesis, that Peter played on his first solo tour?
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Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:08 |
In the Cage, but the original version by Peter Gavriel only.
This is a song in which the vocalist has to transmit the panic, angerm frustration, claustrophobia and sadness opf Rael being trapped in the cave and his brother leaving him.
NOBODY can transmit such a variety of strong feelings as Peter Gabriel, his semi yodeling is almost like a cry for help and a fading shout of panic, when he describes the claustrophobia symptoms I almost feel like trapped with him.
Shut me in, lock me tight. Lips are dry, throat is dry. Feel like burning, stomach churning, I'm dressed up in a white costume Padding out leftover room. Body stretching, feel the wretching In the cage Get me out of this cage!
Phil has a one tone voice, when he wants to add emotion he only shouts while Peter with a single inflection of his voice without the need of a shout transmits different messages.
This is IMO the most emotive song of all Genesis career and by far the best of The Lamb, made by and for Peter Gabriel.
Iván
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 23:29 |
I'll go with "In the cage" as well... only has 22.92% of the vote so far, I'm shocked it's not double that.
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The Letter M
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 23:27 |
I went with "Back In NYC" myself. I love playing on my drumset with that song! The rhythmic changes and Peter's voice are just perfect!
It's one of my favorite songs (probably top 10) of the bands first 6 albums!
-Marc.
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I know what I like and I like what I know. I will choose a path that's clear, I will choose free will. If I die tomorrow, I`d be alright because I believe that after we`re gone, the spirit carries on.
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mgallard
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 23:03 |
Well, I'm back with information from a reputable source
. This weekend we met up with Steve Hackett in Mexico City and he was
kind enough to spend some time talking to some of his local fans. I was
able to ask him specifically regarding this issue and he corroborated
that Pete locked himself up to write the story and lyrics and that the
music was composed by all the rest. So, no, Peter Gabriel did not
compose all the music and lyrics by himself. Good to have that
completely clarified, no?
Kind regards
Mogens
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mgallard
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 21:34 |
rockandrail wrote:
Fly on the windshield. It's one of the few genesis
songs on the album, the rest being Peter gabriel's solo. And I don't
like Peter Gabriel solos'. |
I remember reading in a Genesis biography (could it have been the
Armando Gallo book I have back in Chile?) that Banks mentioned all the
music was by Genesis minus Gabriel and that Gabriel locked himself away
and reappeared with the "Lamb" story and lyrics. I never have heard
before Gabriel composed the complete album, that sounds completely
impossible and improbable, no way he could have made such a good record
all by himself (just listen to the so-so first solo ablum he made!).
I'll try to find some info on this when I have time.
Greetings
Mogens
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Pr@gmatic
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Posted: October 06 2005 at 20:57 |
Damn right!
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FragileDT
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Posted: October 05 2005 at 01:16 |
Progger wrote:
How can anyone vote for any song on side two. It's
crap
BTW. I voted for In The Cage off side one of course! |
Because side two is just as good as side one.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Pr@gmatic
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 21:55 |
Under wrote:
When I first heard the album I feel in love with The Lamia.
We have been married now for more than 15 years. I accnot cheat on my wife. I have to choose The Lamia.
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Same thing here. "The Lamia" is as good as the lamb gets.
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supper'sready72
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 21:04 |
fandango wrote:
In The Cage...especially the version on 3 Sides Live...it really helped to get me into earlier Genesis, when I was 16. |
Me too.......that was only a year ago. It will always hold a special meaning to me.
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"Can't you feel our souls ignite?
Shedding ever-changing colors,in the darkness of the fading night..."
-Genesis
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FragileDT
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:23 |
Hey I don't know why Counting Out Time has a bad rep. It fits perfectly on
the album. I'm surprised no one else has chosen Anyway, I still think that
middle instrumental part makes the most climatic part of the album.
Nonetheless the entire album could even be considered a climax in itself.
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Spadger
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Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:06 |
The best song for my taste is In The Cage - but my favorite is Counting Out Time
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transend
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 22:06 |
1. Silent sorrows
2. in the cage
3. hairless heart
4. Back in NYC
5. Fly on a windsheild
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Frasse
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 10:30 |
1. Hairless Heart
2. Fly on a Windshell
3. In the Cage
4. Keyboard solo on Slippermen
5. The rest
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RaphaelT
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 07:03 |
Counting Out Time.
Of course it was almost impossible to choose the one song from this wonderful album, and the hilarious mood of COT decided.
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yet you still have time!
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