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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 12:03
whats differs from liberal and libertarian?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:58
That also happens when your universities stop being centers for discussion and thinking and become expensive hotels with a sports team attached to them. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:53
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

TRIGGER WARNING!! - MAY UPSET THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DOG TRAINED TO BE OVER SENSITIVE.

Recently I watched students surround a respected professor at Yale demanding an apology from him for endorsing Halloween, and suggesting that those offended by some peoples costumes should merely turn away.

The professor calmly tried to explain his position which was essentially based in inclusivity, but this induced what can only be described as a hysterical screaming panic attack in one intense young woman, whose words of venomous condemnation evoked a round of "jazz hands" applause from the zombified crowd. Just to be clear "jazz hands" is basically clicking ones fingers instead of clapping to show appreciation, so as not to induce anxiety in others...

This is just one example of the weird and darkly ironic authoritarian behaviour of the new cult of modern liberalism being installed and encouraged in the young.

Does anyone else think there is something unsavoury and dubious going on, and that the world is essentially going mad??

Maybe I am dumb, but I don't see any liberalism in this, neither genuine nor faux. Confused


No your not dumb at all. They are not liberals at all. Their outlook is authoritarian which is the opposite. I expect THEY regard temselves as liberal. They are part of whats wrong with the world right now. IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:51
^You couldn't have said it better Clap. And then ask them to give you one proper idea and they will just repeat "f**k the politicians" 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:47
being from the USA myself I know what you mean. I just told Friede that people in the USA feel liberal when they say "F*** the politicians"


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:44
For these people, being "liberal" is not having a set of beliefs but just a tag they can wear 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:44
And I come to expect religious nuts getting crazy over "wars on Christmas" and such but it's sad and worrying when the ones getting all foamy on the mouth are supposedly "liberal" college students. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:43
As always, I blame the parents first. This is the first of the spoiled, unrealistic "everyone gets a trophy" generations which we now have to contend with. They've been taught that the world favors them and that everything should be fair and how they demand things to be so they don't have to deal with icky, bad things. They're all finally of the age where their voices can be heard. Blech.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:42
^Well that outrage comes from the (supposedly) other end of the spectrum (the religious loonies) but it's basically the same just with a different perspective: people getting upset about supposed offenses to entire groups, so that they feel morally superior. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:39
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Here in the US sadly you get to call yourself liberal if you can get sufficiently upset about something and post it on youtube or twitter these days... 



Indeed.  Our current biggest outrage is the color of a coffee cup.  It's hard not to feel that this society is ultimately doomed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:37
Here in the US sadly you get to call yourself liberal if you can get sufficiently upset about something and post it on youtube or twitter these days... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:34
To quote from Wikipedia:

Liberalism

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This article is about the ideology of liberalism. For local differences in its meaning, see Liberalism by country.
"Liberals" redirects here. For other uses, see Liberal (disambiguation).
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Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.[1] The former principle is stressed in classical liberalism while the latter is more evident in social liberalism.[2] Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas and programs such as freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free markets, civil rights, democratic societies, secular governments, and international cooperation

Now where is any of this in the example, genuine or faux?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:25
^^^  That's exactly what I mean. But I see this happening in schools rather than in the home.

I had to edit to add a ^


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:24
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

TRIGGER WARNING!! - MAY UPSET THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DOG TRAINED TO BE OVER SENSITIVE.

Recently I watched students surround a respected professor at Yale demanding an apology from him for endorsing Halloween, and suggesting that those offended by some peoples costumes should merely turn away.

The professor calmly tried to explain his position which was essentially based in inclusivity, but this induced what can only be described as a hysterical screaming panic attack in one intense young woman, whose words of venomous condemnation evoked a round of "jazz hands" applause from the zombified crowd. Just to be clear "jazz hands" is basically clicking ones fingers instead of clapping to show appreciation, so as not to induce anxiety in others...

This is just one example of the weird and darkly ironic authoritarian behaviour of the new cult of modern liberalism being installed and encouraged in the young.

Does anyone else think there is something unsavoury and dubious going on, and that the world is essentially going mad??

Maybe I am dumb, but I don't see any liberalism in this, neither genuine nor faux. Confused


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:20
^Those are terrible. Those are the worst. But some "liberals" aren't much better when they act like it's their way or no way at all. It's ridiculous that "liberals" restrain free speech. True liberals will defend the right of people to express themselves above their self-entitlement and their need to feel good about their privileges (these are college students in an expensive University. They are privileged). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 11:02
Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

I believe this type of thinking is put into children's heads as early as elementary school.
This new form of liberalism doesn't come from the students, it comes from school boards and school districts.
By the time they get to college most of them are completely programmed.

 
Hmm...programmed...You mean also like the right wing Bible thumpers who love god and country and say you must also or you are a godless liberal..?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 10:57
BTW, I completely agree with Blacksword's statement. I'm just as tired of the far left as I am of the far right.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 10:57
It's disgusting. It's sad to be associated with these completely un-liberal people who just use that term to feel good about themselves for being upset about everything and feeling entitled to everything. The same when "liberals" who prefer to stop free speech because it might offend someone. I am not that type. 

These are just young selfish idiots who use different tactics to justify their selfishness. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 10:55
Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

https://medium.com/@aaronzlewis/what-s-really-going-on-at-yale-6bdbbeeb57a6


"an email sent by Professor Erika Christakis, which suggested that people should feel free to wear culturally insensitive costumes on Halloween."

That's a total mischaracterization of her e-mail.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-new-intolerance-of-student-activism-at-yale/414810/

 “We simply ask that our existences not be invalidated on campus,” the letter says, catastrophizing.

Please read this slowly, and let it soak in that there are people that actually feel that their existence is invalidated by a Halloween costume.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2015 at 10:54
I believe this type of thinking is put into children's heads as early as elementary school.
This new form of liberalism doesn't come from the students, it comes from school boards and school districts.
By the time they get to college most of them are completely programmed.

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