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alan_pfeifer 
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 Posted: November 11 2005 at 22:19 |
I agree. Hip-Hop is sorely misunderstood
Man Overboard, ever tried anything by a group called The Roots? one of the few mainstream groups I listen to, they throw off a great jazzy/laid back vibe that is just great. and it's all done with live instrumentation.
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Biggles
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 22:18 |
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I've yet to hear anyone rap in anything other than 4/4. I'm not sure about underground rappers, but I seriously doubt that many of the mainstream rappers can even count.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 22:06 |
Greenback, look at it this way... some people judge prog on Owner
Of A Lonely Heart, and most people think rap/hip-hop is the stuff they
hear on the radio. 
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greenback
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 22:03 |
 Man Overboard wrote:
At the very least, it would be insanely awesome if there was a single -album- that had the intention of fusing prog with rap... full band, tons of ambition... it could be amazing. 40 minutes of something that would surprise the hell out of everyone.  |
you'll have to work EXTREMELY hard to convince me!
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Man Overboard
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:58 |
At the very least, it would be insanely awesome if there was a single
-album- that had the intention of fusing prog with rap... full
band, tons of ambition... it could be amazing. 40 minutes
of something that would surprise the hell out of everyone.
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con safo
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Joined: March 17 2005
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:55 |
Man Overboard wrote:
I don't think it would be beyond feasibility to rap in odd time signatures...
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It would be very interesting, even extended tracks where after the MC
raps the beat takes many different musical turns... i guess it could be
possible to have 'proggy' rap but i think a new sub genre would be a
long shot!
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Man Overboard
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:54 |
I don't think it would be beyond feasibility to rap in odd time signatures...
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con safo
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:52 |
I really dont think it would be possible.. but yes i agree highly that
there is heaps of good hip hop out there, and its a sadly misunderstood
genre in the prog world.
Recently i've been getting into some instrumental hip hop (trip hop as
some call it) and im very surprised to hear proggy passages! Stuff like
Blockhead, Bonobo, rjd2, Dj shadow etc. All go way beyond the simple
hip hop beat and mix many organic instruments in, very adventerous and
progressive (as in progressing hip hop to new levels, not being prog)
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Man Overboard
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Posted: November 11 2005 at 21:48 |
I'm listening to the new Sage Francis... it's -so-
-close-... tons of creative musical elements, lots of time
changes, insanely intelligent lyrics... if we could just take
that -next- -step-...
...I despise mainstream rap, but there's underground stuff that's
seriously great. If we could combine it with prog, I'd embrace
it.
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