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Frippertron
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 07:42 |
I suppose its not what Dream Theater needs but what prog rock fans need.
I would suggest clearing out their ears from the same old tat that classes itself as prog rock but is in fact plagirism rock (where do I start?)
I am happy with Dream Theater and wouldnt want anything to change about their overall sound or anything.
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The Cheerful Insanity of Prog Rock
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Evandro Martini
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 07:19 |
In my opinion, DT doesn't suffer a lack of something, but an excess of many things: Excess of bad singing. Excess of velocity, just to show up. We can listen to what they are playing... Excess of bad timbres.
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"You’ll never make any money playing music that people can’t sing.” Keith Emerson's father
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Darklord55
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 07:06 |
fandango wrote:
Lonely Progger wrote:
So if you had the 4 members of DT in front of you discussing about their 2009 album what advice would you give them ? |
which of their 5 members were you hoping might leave?? 
...personally, and I feel I am increasingly in the minority in saying this... I like them just the way they are... turning out a top rate album every 2 years...they should simply be left alone to get on with it...  |
Agreed!!!! Call me or us DT fan boys, I don't care. Why change something that is near perfection. IMHO. Anyway, I am sure they would not want our advice.  Dream Theater, Opeth, 3 and Between the Buried and Me, 2008!! WOW!!!
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Jared
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 07:01 |
aapatsos wrote:
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good grief...I think they have bucket loads....maybe you should go and listen to some Spiral Architect, then re-evaluate... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 06:52 |
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Jared
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 06:48 |
Lonely Progger wrote:
Top rate albums to you, but not to the majority so would you have nothing to say ?
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no...nothing to add...I've been happy listening to their music since before you were born (with the exception of FII which was quite a disappointment) ...and will probably still be happy with them, when you have kids of your own.... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Dean
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 06:34 |
Good Question, but one I don't think there is an answer to
The obvious answer is that as a Prog Metal band they never will deliver a Prog album that appeals to all Proggers, which wouild put them in the top 15, or even the top 50.
Pehaps they could adopt some self-control - they are very talented musicians with many good ideas, but perhaps they shouldn't try and use them all at once. But then that is their style, that is what makes them DT. 
Also, I was listening to Systematic Chaos yesterday and it struck me how much old ground they were retreading on that album, there are tracks there that would fit comfortably on Scenes, Train and Octavarium, for example Forsaken could easily be (yet another) ending for Scenes - they don't need to do that, there are more than enough original ideas without having to do.
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Dalezilla
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 06:33 |
I think they should start being what they are instead of trying to be what they were.
Edited by Dalezilla - November 24 2007 at 07:40
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Lonely Progger
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 06:32 |
I do consider Labrie a but as a musical deadweight ^^, How can you respect a singer who doesn't contribute to the music and doesn't even write the lyrics he sings !
But he must feel crushed by Petrucci's and Rudess' musical knowledge most of the time and he isn't really a progger to, Mike Portnoy said he listened to maroon 5 and stuff like that  . So it must be quite hard for him to find his place in the machine that is Dream theater.
Top rate albums to you, but not to the majority so would you have nothing to say ?
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Lost in the south of france:
" Le rock progressif ? C'est quoi cette connerie? "
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Jared
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 06:13 |
Lonely Progger wrote:
So if you had the 4 members of DT in front of you discussing about their 2009 album what advice would you give them ? |
which of their 5 members were you hoping might leave?? 
...personally, and I feel I am increasingly in the minority in saying this... I like them just the way they are... turning out a top rate album every 2 years...they should simply be left alone to get on with it... 
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Lonely Progger
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Posted: November 24 2007 at 06:09 |
I've thought a lot about this and was wondering what Dream Theater needed to take them to the Top 15 studio albums of this site.
Because they are all four obviously very talented musicians with a very wide range of different styles, just have to listen to "Evening with J.Rudess & J. Petrucci" & LTE .
I'm listening to Lunar Sea by Camel right now and they could just never do that.
Well they are Brilliant musicians but when they do something like "The Dance Of Eternity" you're amazed but there is just something missing.What is it to you ?
So if you had the 4 members of DT in front of you discussing about their 2009 album what advice would you give them ?
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Lost in the south of france:
" Le rock progressif ? C'est quoi cette connerie? "
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