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omri 
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 Posted: May 30 2005 at 18:34 |
The 80's was'nt great as the 70's. But they were some great exceptions like Robert Wyatt's "Old rottenhat" & Talk talk's "Spirit of eden".
The worst time for prog was any year before 1967. No prog at all. Funny we all seem to forget it only started in the late 60's and before that there were very few artists who were worth hearing at all.
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samuel.jeronimo
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Posted: May 30 2005 at 04:17 |
 geezer wrote:
There is many "good" albums in samuel.jeronimo's list but only a few that I consider "essential". Every decade so far has had many of these "good" albums. And the list is lacking some of the most essential 80's albums like Dun - Eros.
So, therefore I still think the 80's sucked big time. It might have been a good decade if you like neo-prog which I most certainly do not.
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I think that the problem with the 80’s is that mass media tries to input us a vision of was it was.
Even when get out of prog you’ll find good things such as Sonic Youth or Echo and the Bunnymen.
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Hiwatter
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 13:33 |
geezer wrote:
There is many "good" albums in samuel.jeronimo's list but only a few that I consider "essential". Every decade so far has had many of these "good" albums. And the list is lacking some of the most essential 80's albums like Dun - Eros.
So, therefore I still think the 80's sucked big time. It might have been a good decade if you like neo-prog which I most certainly do not.
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MorgothSunshine
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 12:27 |
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Every era have had it's great and it's bad!...probably in the '70 there was more great than in every other era!
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For every truth even the contrary is true...
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greenback
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 09:58 |
i'm a neo prog fan!
actually there were no weak decades; just a couples of years where prog rock was more forgotten.
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Jimbo
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 09:29 |
geezer wrote:
There is many "good" albums in samuel.jeronimo's list but only a few
that I consider "essential". Every decade so far has had many of these
"good" albums. And the list is lacking some of the most essential 80's
albums like Dun - Eros.
So, therefore I still think the 80's sucked big time. It might have
been a good decade if you like neo-prog which I most certainly do not.
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Exactly. For neo-prog fans it was probably great, but for me the 80's
had almost nothing to offer. Of course there are exceptions but it was
clearly the worst decade for prog IMO.
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geezer
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 09:14 |
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There is many "good" albums in samuel.jeronimo's list but only a few
that I consider "essential". Every decade so far has had many of these
"good" albums. And the list is lacking some of the most essential 80's
albums like Dun - Eros.
So, therefore I still think the 80's sucked big time. It might have
been a good decade if you like neo-prog which I most certainly do not.
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Rhayader
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 09:06 |
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Remember that Rush released their best album (IMO, anyway) in the 80s,
and Yes also did some great work then, despite what everyone says.
Also, ABWH was an awesome album. Camel did some good albums then, Nude
was great.
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"Sadder still to watch you die than never to have known it..."
Rush - Losing It
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Manunkind
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 08:34 |
samuel.jeronimo wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
^^^
Now there's a man who's done his homework.
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And i’m seeing the Simpsons.
Fox channel is broadcasting – here in Portugal – 3 episodes at the time so you can’t escape.
I’ve just saw the mythic episode where the church organist plays “In-the-Gadda-da-Vida” or “In the garden of Eden” 
By the way I forgot to include on the list “Drama” by Yes… and many more I hope... 
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it's a killer!!!
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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samuel.jeronimo
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 07:21 |
Manunkind wrote:
^^^
Now there's a man who's done his homework.
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And i’m seeing the Simpsons.
Fox channel is broadcasting – here in Portugal – 3 episodes at the time so you can’t escape.
I’ve just saw the mythic episode where the church organist plays “In-the-Gadda-da-Vida” or “In the garden of Eden”
By the way I forgot to include on the list “Drama” by Yes… and many more I hope...
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Manunkind
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 07:09 |
^^^
Now there's a man who's done his homework.
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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samuel.jeronimo
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 07:03 |
The 80’s were great…
1980
“Macchina Maccheronica” by Stormy Six
”Sky 2” by Sky
”A Story of Mysterious Forest” by Ain Soph
”Privado” by Ananga-Ranga
”Between Flesh and Divine” by Asia Minor
”Um Peu de l'Âme des Bandits” by Aksak Maboul
”Gusliar” by Pesniary
”Gevecht met de Engel” by Flairck
”Familesprickor” by Zamla Mammaz Manna
”Blue Motion” by Blue Motion
1981
“Terpandre” by Terpandre
”Ceux du Dehors” by Univers Zero
”Játékok” by East
”Planets” by Eloy
”Divergencie” by Collegium Musicum
”Cartoon” by Cartoon
”Emile au Jardin Patrologique” by Debile Menthol
”Speechless” by Fred Frith
1982
“Erdenklang” by Bognermayr, Hubert e Zuschrader, Harald
”In Blau” by Anyone's Daughter
”Sky 4” by Sky
”Hüség” by East
”Zamlaranamma” by von Zamla
”Também Eu” by Banda do Casaco
”End of Illusion” by Anders Helmerson
”Al Volo” by Stormy Six
”Begnagrad” by Begnagrad
1983
“The Final Cut” by Pink Floyd
”A Fury of Glass” by La Rossa
”Vill Du Höra Mer” by Lars Hollmer
”Põletus” by Kaseke
”Locomo” by Gwendal
”Antarctica” by Vangelis
”Depois do Fim” by Bacamarte
”Music from Left Field” by Cartoon
1984
“Music for Piano and Drums” by Patrick Moraz e Bill Bruford
”Marsbéli Krónikák” by Solaris
”A Catch at the Tables” by Anthony Phillips
”Three of a Perfect Pair” by King Crimson
”Les Sillons de la Terre” by Etron Fou Leloublan
”Battre Campagne” by Debile Menthol
”Uzed” by Univers Zero
”Twelve” by Anthony Phillips
”Work Resumed on the Tower” by News from Babel
1985
“90125” by Yes
“Warmth Of the Earth” by Edward Artemiev
”Broadcasting from Home” by Penguin Cafe Orchestra
”Summer in Town” by Horizont
”Le Poison Qui Rend Fou” by Present
”Le Mariage du Ciel et de L'Enfer” by Art Zoyd
”Sea Reflections, Le Isildurs Bane
”Sagrado, Le Sagrado Coração da Terra
”Il y a des Jours” by Hellebore
”In Spe (Typewriter Concerto in D) ” by In Spe
”Old Friends New Friends” by Rick van der Linden
1986
“Les Morts Vonte Vite” by Shub-Niggurath
”Letters Home” by News from Babel
”Estación de Sombra” by Nazca
”And Close As This” by Peter Hammill
”Hat And Field” by Ain Soph
”Ivory Moon” by Anthony Phillips
”La Mosaïque de la Rêverie” by Pageant
1987
“Heatwave” by Univers Zero
”Magdalena” by Magdalena
”Barren Dream” by Mr. Sirius
”Water Blue” by Vermillion Sands
”Berlin” by Art Zoyd
”The Scene of Pale Blue” by Outer Limits
”Eight Moments of Eternity” by Isildurs Bane
1988
“Adolescencia Cronica” by Iconoclasta
”Baroque in the Future” by Deja Vu
”Blue Chip Orchestra” by Blue Chip Orchestra
”Espace Fini” by Tiemko
”In a Foreign Town” by Peter Hammill
”Miriodor” by Miriodor
”Circle in the Forest” by Asturias
”Svatba” by Iva Bittová & Pavel Fajt
1989
“The Girl Who Was... Death” by Devil Doll
”Cheval” by Isildurs Bane
”Ilia”Epos
”The Portrait of a Boy” by Horizont
”Nosferatu” by Art Zoyd
”In This Life” by Thinking Plague
”Strata” by Opus Avantra
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Hiwatter
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 06:02 |
DarioIndjic wrote:
Compared to 70s prog,80s were empty years,but there was excellent ,if not some truly masterpieces of prog rock.English,Italian,German,Scandinavian or US scene was mostly dead,but in some countries,prog scene was flourishing(for example Japan).
Here are some 80s masterpieces:
Marillion - Script For A Jester's Tear
Marillion - Fugazi
Solaris - Marsbeli Kronikak
Bacamarte - Depois Do Fim
Gerard - Gerard
Gerard - Empty Lie,Empty Dream
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Bacamarte Depoid Du Fim was recorded in 1978.
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Hiwatter
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 06:01 |
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80s were by far the worst music era. I hate 98% of 80s, slick production, all digital synths, guitar playing, no originality, atmosphere. Best prog from 80s for me were some late French groups like Dun for example. I am anti-neoprogger, so 80s arent for me. Nowadays here are much more good prog bands than in 80s.
Edited by Hiwatter
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 15:25 |
Personally, i think that the 80's was the worst time for music in general. New Wave came around and the sound of bands totally changed with the snythesizers and the drums. I don't know why people felt like they needed to change the sound of drums. Pfft.....
Anyway, to address the question, the 80's wasn't the worst. It wasnt as good as the 70's but that dosen't mean it sucked horribly. Some good stuff was made in the 80's, just like almost everyone said. I dont like 00's for prog. To much prog metal. I know a lot of people here like it, and no offense to you, but i just don't care for it.
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limeyrob
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 14:15 |
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I'm afraid I missed the prog scene in the 80's live so to speak. Just married, new house, I could go on. Now I'm back cataloguing from the 80's onwards. I have to say that though there is some good prog around that decade, the 80's content of my collection is a bit thin on the ground. Any recommendations in the symphonic/metal prog genre. I have some Queensryche, Marillion and IQ
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Manunkind
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 07:24 |
VLADO wrote:
I think 80s were great with
1. the solo efforts of PG, PH, kate bush, robert plant...
2. yes, genesis
3. the rush best albums
4. an appearing of new things like marillion
5. return of deep purple, pink floyd
6. an absolute collection of dezo ursiny
7. also with the pop stuffs like talk talk (who went onto deep waters afterwards), dire straits, police, sting, ...
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Yep, and King Crimson resurfaced, putting out one magnificent album (Discipline) and two decent ones (Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair).
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 07:20 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 07:16 |
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sigod
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 06:56 |
Blacksword wrote:
Looks like it was a pretty good decade to me.. |
Agreed, I was there and had fantastic time.
Which is more than can be said for the fashion...
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The 80s..the worst era for prog.
