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Poll Question: how do you fel about Metallica being added ?
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 17:33
All's I can say is that although I'd suspect Beavis doesn't come here, for some reason, unbeknownst to him he is feeling really happy right now...
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Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:

Don't worry Winter so do iWink
 
BTW i see that you often quoting with some philosophical background, did you study philosophy?


Not formally--that would spoil it!
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:28
Don't worry Winter so do iWink
 
BTW i see that you often quoting with some philosophical background, did you study philosophy?




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Points: 424 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:23
Originally posted by zafreth zafreth wrote:


Come on, Winter you find puerile, but you keep answering


As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.  Embarrassed
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 16:14
Originally posted by WinterLight WinterLight wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


I won't be "fair" to that person who isn't ready to be "fair" too....


Didn't Socrates suggest that it is better to suffer injustice than to cause injustice?  Cf., the so-called Golden Rule.

In any case, this entire debacle surrounding the inclusion of Metallica in the archives strikes me as somewhat puerile.  Have we not sufficiently argued the case in favor of it?  Perhaps the arguments aren't completely rigorous; still, there's less to be said for the lazy myopia which characterizes the counterarguments.
 
Come on, Winter you find puerile, but you keep answeringLOL Wink




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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


I won't be "fair" to that person who isn't ready to be "fair" too....


Didn't Socrates suggest that it is better to suffer injustice than to cause injustice?  Cf., the so-called Golden Rule.

In any case, this entire debacle surrounding the inclusion of Metallica in the archives strikes me as somewhat puerile.  Have we not sufficiently argued the case in favor of it?  Perhaps the arguments aren't completely rigorous; still, there's less to be said for the lazy myopia which characterizes the counterarguments.
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 14:13
That's right. I think I'm going to open an "I'm not leaving" thread.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 14:07
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

I'll do worse, I'll actually stay in protest. Stern Smile


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Points: 46301 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:59
I'm with Iván on this one: no more protest once nothing more can be done. Wink

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I'll do worse, I'll actually stay in protest. Stern Smile
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Points: 35837 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:57
Teo: Fair enough, but in terms of content, it would be wrong to imply that no argument had been given by him despite how one feels about the way he expressed his views.  One can decry the tone, but that doesn't invalidate the content. Hyperbole and misrepresentation is best avoided all around, methinks.
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Points: 66264 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:55

The ladies of PA are causing quite the identity crisis today.  It appears that Ghost Rider has just left in protest.
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:41
Yes! Let's all leave in protest!AngryLOL (Well, I did a number of times, though I had rather serious reasons for doing so....)
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:38

Yes Greg but Draken could've expressed his views without insults... I won't be "fair" to that person who isn't ready to be "fair" too....

Raffaela, I still can't get over shock and awww... I'm leaving this site, as I don't agree with their addition... LOLLOL

 
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:24
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

What?  Metallica is in the archives?  You guys must be FREAKIN' IDIOTS!!!!  I will leave this site and NEVER COME BACK!!  AHHHHHHHHHHHh!*


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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:21
What?  Metallica is in the archives?  You guys must be FREAKIN' IDIOTS!!!!  I will leave this site and NEVER COME BACK!!  AHHHHHHHHHHHh!*


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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:20
Greg:Clap

I think any form of disrespect should not be tolerated. After all, most of us have to put up with c*** like that in our everyday lives, and we have the right to be left in peace on a site we use in order to relax and indulge our passion for music. Being a member of ProgArchives is not mandatory, and if one disagrees with its policies, either they make themselves heard in a polite, respectful, CONSTRUCTIVE way, or they should hit the road as soon as possible. There is absolutely NO excuse for using rude, derogatory language, or for personal attacks.
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Points: 35837 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 13:13
Yes, there's often a lack of respect at these forums when it comes to differences of opinion.  Not sure why matters can't be discussed in a more friendly and respectful manner and descend into insult and rancor.  We don't have to agree to be respectful, polite and charitable to each other.   To be fair to Darken, he raised a similar concern to mine: that it was classic Progressive Rock bands that put the Prog in Prog Metal far more than a progressive metal (but not Prog as a noun) band -- that being Metallica.  However, if as has been said, Metallica shares sufficient structural (compositional) traits with Progressive Rock music (has enough similarities), then it certainly should be in Related at the least (or if it has full-blown Prog albums, structurally-speaking, then in Prog Metal, of course).

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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 12:55
As it's always been the case with this Metallica addition.... I've read a little of Certf1ed's reviews... and as always (well, almost... don't read his DT reviews Tongue), they're full of ARGUMENTS.....
 
On the other hand, we have people calling the addition (and therefore, in a way, the people who added them, hence, meOuch) , "obscenely retarded", but when time comes to actually try to reason and give arguments for their opposition, all they can do is..... WRITE IN CAPS.... as if by some mighty power, whatever you write IN CAPS somehow becomes true no matter what.... (I'm using that "technique" in this post as you can see).
 
In that case:
 
METALLICA IS IN PROG-RELATED... CAPISCE?!?  (IN CASE ENGLISH DOESN'T SUIT YOU)
 
METALLICA PLAYED PROG-METAL, CAPISCE??? (emulating you, I won't give any arguments.. just CAPS)
 
SHOW SOME RESPECT TO PEOPLE , CAPISCE???  
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2008 at 11:43
There's always someone who will complain about anything - but there's been nothing like the fuss there was when Radiohead was added - it was practically war!
 
Then when Queen were added, it was almost like Radiohead all over again - and you should have seen the fuss over the Beatles.
 
Metallica are a completely logical addition - I've yet to see a good argument against them, and I think my recent reviews show clearly how I hear Prog in their music (not just Prog Metal, but PROG) - and there have been no analytical come-backs on any of them, just a couple of random hate posts.
 
There are also no negative reviews, only positive.
 
I do not count the ratings - it is quite obvious that the 1 star ratings are from sad people who blanket rated the Metallica albums (particularly the Prog ones) in order to lower their overall ratings.
 
 
So, that aside, this seems to be a perfectly acceptable addition, in comparison to the ones I mentioned above, with no reasoned objections - nice!


Edited by Certif1ed - October 23 2008 at 11:47
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