The creepy cult of modern faux liberalism

Atavachron wrote: The T wrote: Curiously, David, I agree with your politics (I may be more extreme) but I still don't grasp what has that to do with the students complaining bitterly about a letter about Halloween costumes. I think I didn't wake up with my full set of IQ points on today for I still fail to see the reasons for your particular outrage...   Good question, T.   My outrage has to do with this thread and almost every single person agreeing with the OP.   I don't like unanimity, it bothers me. I don't care about Halloween costumes.  Who would?

Nobody. And what sparked this whole thing. 

Edited by The T - November 11 2015 at 15:04

The T wrote: Curiously, David, I agree with your politics (I may be more extreme) but I still don't grasp what has that to do with the students complaining bitterly about a letter about Halloween costumes. I think I didn't wake up with my full set of IQ points on today for I still fail to see the reasons for your particular outrage...

Good question, T.   My outrage has to do with this thread and almost every single person agreeing with the OP.   I don't like unanimity, it bothers me.

I don't care about Halloween costumes.  Who would?

Atavachron wrote: It is your thing.   There should be a Dean's Member Names Reference.

He's got a 54000-line excel spreadsheet to track us all

The Dark Elf wrote: The T wrote: The Dark Elf wrote: The creepy cult of modern faux liberalism? As opposed to the sanguine sect of modern pseudo-conservatives? Those that would even bash Ronald Reagan as a godless lefty?  Those who clap rabidly when a GOP candidate says he would fire IRS agents if he was president? This who don't give a single f**k about people? Yes. Faux liberals are annoying as hell but disgusting pseudo-conservative are way worse.     Actually, Teo, the problem with the U.S. at present is there is an embarrassingly asinine left and an grossly ignorant right, and no one supporting those in the middle, like myself, who have liberal views regarding women's right and the environment, and also believe in fiscal responsibility (fiscal responsibility not equaling failed trickle-down economics and tax cuts for corporations and the ultra-rich in this case).

On the other hand, I can see where these little 'experiments' on college campuses tie in with the emergence of a new politics.  I guess we have forgotten the importance of student activism in politics; it's been a really long time since there was any churning in politics here-to-before but the signs are everywhere now from North America to Europe to Asia.   I also referred to these sort of incidents as the logical culmination of Progressivism.  Would like to add that it also makes perfect sense that we liberals would feel outraged by it, because such a culmination would involve finally chucking the 'liberal' suffix.  That was required in the 20th century to 'validate' this progressive strand of politics so that it would be seen as pro-choice but with right wing hawks sacrificing liberty for the sake of national security, choice may no longer be seen as as important as shaping a certain kind of world. With that said, I am no closer than you are to figuring out his source of outrage on behalf of the students and find his exhortations to all and sundry to wake up and smell the coffee, so to speak, baffling.  Yes, I can see what is going on but I don't see that as a reason to move my ideals because if I did, they wouldn't be ideals.  I can only see this tiresome trend of PC-ness growing with time but that doesn't mean I will turn cheerleader just to be with it.  I don't think it's right and as a true liberal I don't give a rat's ass what opinion people may have of me for taking that position. 

This thread poses a very real, threatening question that our society will have to face in the coming years: Is there such thing as an ugly liberal?

Atavachron wrote: Uhm, no, not at all.  I'm making an observation.  Period.  The fact that I tend toward progressive politics doesn't negate my ability to assess the national political mood.   One has nothing to do with the other.

Sorry to labour the point, but you said..

"And frankly after Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush l & ll and assorted other empathy-challenged and ethically-bankrupt persons, it's about time"

"It's about time" That sounds like you are an advocate of the sought of left leaning totalitarian behaviour under discussion here.

Also why is it referred to as 'progressive' politics?

Atavachron wrote: You know everyone's name, you rat !

Atavachron wrote: But thank you for having the nuts to say it Madan.  And I really don't think the whiskey shots or bong hits had anything to do with my behavior so let's just get off that right now.   Cheers to you and a big awkward hug.

Uhm, no, not at all.  I'm making an observation.  Period.  The fact that I tend toward progressive politics doesn't negate my ability to assess the national political mood.   One has nothing to do with the other.