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ProgBagel 
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 Posted: November 28 2007 at 13:48 |
 Bj-1 wrote:
I think DT have kind of stagnated musically over their last few albums. If they managed to make an album in the vein of their Awake album again that would be much better. |
That album was just an explosion of musicianship. Some of the best prog-metal guitar and keyboard work. LaBrie was stunning on it too.
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Bj-1
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:52 |
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I think DT have kind of stagnated musically over their last few albums. If they managed to make an album in the vein of their Awake album again that would be much better.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:46 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
Lonely Progger wrote:
So if you had the 5 members of DT in front of you discussing about their 2009 album what advice would you give them ? |
#1) Drop the egos.
#2) Drop Rudess. At least don't make him throw in honky-tonk bits  #3) Beg Moore to return Agree!
#4) Stop acting like a metal band Agree!
#5) Bring Myung out more in the mix Agree! He's awesome but so "behind" the others!
#6) Focus on the music and not the overplaying of it because there is some great melody Agree, stop being like machines and write soulful music without soulless parts.
#7) Stop pressuring LaBrie sing a certain way. huh?
#8) Adopt a Space Rock element to add to a few songs Would be cool  #9) Don't let Portnoy sing Kind of agree
#10) Have a sexy girl on the next cover. ehm... |
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:39 |
Lonely Progger wrote:
So if you had the 5 members of DT in front of you discussing about their 2009 album what advice would you give them ? |
#1) Drop the egos.
#2) Drop Rudess
#3) Beg Moore to return
#4) Stop acting like a metal band
#5) Bring Myung out more in the mix
#6) Focus on the music and not the overplaying of it because there is some great melody
#7) Stop pressuring LaBrie sing a certain way.
#8) Adopt a Space Rock element to add to a few songs
#9) Don't let Portnoy sing
#10) Have a sexy girl on the next cover.
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sircosick
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 15:46 |
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Ooh....... let's begin with it though. Emotion... a measure-less thing, isn't it? ...I see DT as a band who makes extremely progressive music.... I mean, it seems to me that they took the main parameters (say complexity, for eg.) of prog music one by one and from that basement, they built the stuff, virtuosistic-oriented as prog uses to be. But they seemed to forget how old prog bands assembled all that parameters: with 'emotion'; 'feeling'...... They are that distorted 'cause maybe they've to hide some weakness (musically).... and here plays the metal component. I think so about all metal bands I've listened to. That was my two cents no more, eh? 
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The best you can is good enough...
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ProgBagel
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 15:36 |
1800iareyay wrote:
Lonely Progger wrote:
I do consider Labrie a but as a musical deadweight ^^, How can you respect a singer who doesn't contribute to the music and doesn't even write the lyrics he sings!
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Wow, you must really hate The Who. And Rush. |
Ah hahahaha. Nice  .
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1800iareyay
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 15:10 |
Lonely Progger wrote:
I do consider Labrie a but as a musical deadweight ^^, How can you respect a singer who doesn't contribute to the music and doesn't even write the lyrics he sings!
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Wow, you must really hate The Who. And Rush.
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sircosick
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 14:53 |
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Eh? Ah? What...? I'd ask "what doesn't DT need?" Hahaha.......
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The best you can is good enough...
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mrcozdude
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 14:44 |
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i'd say another vocalist and some songs that are out of key
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limeyrob
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 14:43 |
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A decent drummer or less of the snare drum - but then you were expecting me to say that.
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oroboross
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 13:58 |
Dream Theater is a progressive metal band. They do side projects to do the other things that DT is not. I saw them when James was just starting and hardly anybody knew who they were and James was not a good singer then but he has improved greatly. What DT needs is to stop listening to everybody that thinks they know what DT needs more than they do. DT writes music for thier fans and they don't try to please anybody else. DT needs to keep producing the best progmetal anywhere.
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ProgBagel
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 18:23 |
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:06 |
rileydog22 wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better, but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other opinions here, but most definitely not prog. |
...but DT's music wouldn't change significantly from the switch.
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Agreed. Thank you for completing that part of my thought (if that was your intent).
Asking DT to change their sound is almost as silly as asking Opeth to release metal albums with clean vocals. Oh, wait, I wholeheartedly supported that idea and was shot down by three quarters of the members on PA.
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:06 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when
it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is
well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock
label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just
feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands
that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists
on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their
music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better,
but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any
superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to
mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other
opinions here, but most definitely not prog.
The only thing that would make DT sound better for you is if they started singing in Italian like your beloved RPI bands. |
oh no... don't misunderstand me.... while I'd never pass up a
chance to take a cheap shot at them.... I have never liked them.. and
never wil... but the several people in this thread who DO mentioned a
decline over the last couple of albums... my point in my previous
post was a serious..a genuine one.. that IF that was the case.. that
changing the label. .is not going to help that situation at
all. Face it ... ALL artist have a creative shelf-life
before they start becoming formulamatic or just going through the
motions. Sure it might be that DT would be a crown jewel at
InsideOut.. but will that stop the decay of the group... help them
create something different from the same old highly technical .. solo
filled music that may impress at first.. but can only impress so many
times before it gets old.
Edited by micky - November 25 2007 at 01:07
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Harry Hood
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:01 |
I can just imagine Derek Shulman , in a big expensive suit, chomping a cigar, walking into the studio as the band rehearses "Dark Eternal Night":
"This sounds pretty good, but have you heard of a band called Slipknot? They're on the label too, the kids love 'em. You guys should try to sound more like them."
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rileydog22
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 01:01 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better, but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other opinions here, but most definitely not prog.
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...but DT's music wouldn't change significantly from the switch.
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rushfan4
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:57 |
Hey Micky, I agree to disagree with you when it comes to Dream Theater. Your dislike for them is well-established. InsideOut Music is my favorite prog rock label. I pretty religiously follow their new releases and I just feel that Dream Theater would be a crown jewel for the types of bands that InsideOut Music carries. And yes I frequently hear artists on this label claim that they are given complete freedom with their music. As far as distribution goes, InsideOut could be better, but many of their new releases are quite easy to find at any superstore like Best Buy, Circuit City or FYE.
When it comes to Roadrunner Records the first band that comes to mind is Nickelback. Decent band IMO. but in relatively few other opinions here, but most definitely not prog.
The only thing that would make DT sound better for you is if they started singing in Italian like your beloved RPI bands.
Edited by rushfan4 - November 25 2007 at 00:58
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micky
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:47 |
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you all aren't blaming the record company for any problems DT are
having are you all... this group should have creative control over it's
own music.. if they don't... then it is their own damn fault.. god
knows how many albums they have sold. and are an established group.. if
they felf they were stiffled in the studio... they easily.. as many
artists have done in the past... create their own label... especially
in the internet age.
The only problems I have heard of with their current company are
distribution and promotion.... not creative control. Unless I
just hadn't hadn't heard of it.. .I haven't checked their fan websites
in like..err....ever hahhahah.
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rushfan4
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:30 |
 InsideOut is one of the best prog rock labels out there in my opinion. I am sure that they would be thrilled to have the real thing with all of the similar bands like Vanden Plas that they now have on their label.
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stonebeard
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Posted: November 25 2007 at 00:29 |
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Better ideas.
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