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Posted: November 09 2013 at 12:43
richardh wrote:
Its a genre I know very little about even though I own a ton of Vangelis, Tomita,TD and JMJarre albums. Never really felt inclined to go beyond these.
It's tough, but you might also add Ryuichi Sakamoto to your list. He's worth it, and his list of soundtracks is very good, and he also has an Oscar for one of them with David Byrne.
Generally this one is tough. I just did a listing of some stuff in a friends show 30 years ago, and the list there was crazy and insane, and had, for example, Heldon, Bezombes et Rizet, Hydravion, Phillipe Grancherre (spelling!), Richard Schneider, Ash Ra Tempel, Cosmic Couriers, Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, Michael Hoenig, Peter Michael Hamel, Eberhard Schoenner, Tomita, Richard Pinhas, Conrad Schnitzler, Achim Reichel, Franco Battiatto, Beaver and Krause, Francis Monkman, Akira Ito, Mr. Takahashi, Kitaro, Chronicle, Far East Family Band, Ralph Lundstead, Robert Schroeder, Patrick Vien, Michael Bundt, JM Jarre, Steve Roach, George Harrison, Cluster, Harmonia, Fripp and Eno (only one person EVER played No Pussyfooting!), Dzyan, Space Art, 7th Wave, FM, and many many many others. And there was not a whole lot of repetition -- like there is on Live 365 or some of those silly streams of one song by the same band! -- like there is today, and the works, as mentioned by myself and others was always about the bottom 1,000,0000 instead of top ten ... but saying that here, most of you don't like it, because it makes you all feel bad! It's not meant to, but it tells you there is a world out there and it has music ... and how much do you want to hear and learn about?
You got to answer that first!
Saying that any of these is better, or worse, than anyone else, is difficult, as there are some gems amidst all of these, but having the ear to listen to any of them, or all of them, takes a different kind of person, and you can not be one that is aligned with the enemy and the top ten world of music! Most of these are way out there and different and not at all aligned with pop music, and belong in areas that are totally experimental and nuts and crazy ... and this is the part of the electronic music that is really far out and out there ... but we can not handle it well!
Remember that 30 years ago, electronic music was an experiment and still growing ... today, it's a joke and stupid, and just another instrument in the orchestra on a rock/pop song! You hardly find many composers of electronic music nowadays, as it is as if it doesn't exist anymore or is redundant like the folks using it, that can not create sounds and are not able to define something new and different.
Edited by moshkito - November 09 2013 at 13:04
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Posted: November 09 2013 at 10:12
In addition to all the Germans mentioned and Brian Eno's ambient work (esp. his collaborations with Robert Fripp) I'm also quite fond of Biosphere, The Future Sound of London, Jean-Michel Jarre and Steve Roach. Surprised to find Coil, Lustmord and Throbbing Gristle on PA but I do like all three projects.
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Tangerine Dream is Ambient are they not? I don't want to get fancy over genre classification, cause it's all just good music, but I just think the term is a bit flawed.
Tangerine Dream's composed pieces that would definitely rate as ambient, but they're not an ambient group by any means. They've been Krautrock, Berlin School, symph prog, and there was that subpar stuff they issued in the '90s.
I would think they're purely Ambient Electronic. I mean, they did incorporate more Rock elements in there music later in their career, but those guys slaved over sequencers, synths, studio tricks, you name it. They always had an atmospheric sound.
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Posted: April 28 2013 at 17:07
When I think "progressive electronic," the first bands/artists that always come to mind straight away are Tangerine Dream, Synergy and the sort. Progressive music with electronic instruments as the chief composing/performing tools.
lucas wrote:
Also worth checking out : Software, Robert Schroeder, Bernd Kistenmacher, The Glimmer Room.
Robert Schroeder released many great albums through the '80s. I lost touch with his output after Pegasus, but stuff like TimeWaves, Computer Voice and Brain Voyager are Berlin School classics, IMO.
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Tangerine Dream is Ambient are they not? I don't want to get fancy over genre classification, cause it's all just good music, but I just think the term is a bit flawed.
Tangerine Dream's composed pieces that would definitely rate as ambient, but they're not an ambient group by any means. They've been Krautrock, Berlin School, symph prog, and there was that subpar stuff they issued in the '90s.
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Posted: April 26 2013 at 20:23
libertycaps wrote:
So. What do y'all think? I'd say:
Kraftwerk
Cluster
Harmonia
Are 3 stellar & influential bands to start with and go from there...
O-o-o-o-o-o-oh! ... I really do not think that anyone can recommend you any single project to start with. I mean, it all really depends on the targeted listener. If you something with a good beat to it, I'd say go for Kraftwerk. But if you are curious about whether electronic music has any depth, checkout Fripp, Eno, and Harold Budd. If you want quiet intensity, go for TD. You want something entertaining and exciting? Check out Terry Riley. Again, there is no telling.
One of the benefits I find about Progressive Electronic music is that it does not give "too much" sonic information (as rock music sometimes does, especially on forced listens). Most of the time it's minimal enough without having my head feeling some kind of a burden.
Ambient, Chillwave, Downtempo, whatever you want to call it, this is some of best I've heard from the genre in more recent years.
I don't think it's electronic prog, it's more akin to electronica. 3'20 to 5'18 could even be played in a night club !
Also worth checking out : Software, Robert Schroeder, Bernd Kistenmacher, The Glimmer Room.
How is group considered electronic prog? I mean the tune I posted is clearly a style of Ambient, Tangerine Dream is Ambient are they not? I don't want to get fancy over genre classification, cause it's all just good music, but I just think the term is a bit flawed.
Some of my favourite music is Electronic. It's really a recent interest though. I like a lot of these so called "progressive electronic" groups, but I'm more geared towards a lot classic IDM and Ambient. Like artists off of Warp records: Boards Of Canada, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, you know all the 90's/modern stuff.
I thought FlyLo was Brainfeeder.
Nah, all his releases except for the debut have been on Warp. You'd think he'd been on his own label, but apparently not.
Apparently he only founded Brainfeeder, although he did release Duality on the label as Captain Murphy.
Oh really? I still have to check out some of those bands on the label, especially Captain Murphy.
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Posted: April 26 2013 at 17:44
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
A Person wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Some of my favourite music is Electronic. It's really a recent interest though. I like a lot of these so called "progressive electronic" groups, but I'm more geared towards a lot classic IDM and Ambient. Like artists off of Warp records: Boards Of Canada, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, you know all the 90's/modern stuff.
I thought FlyLo was Brainfeeder.
Nah, all his releases except for the debut have been on Warp. You'd think he'd been on his own label, but apparently not.
Apparently he only founded Brainfeeder, although he did release Duality on the label as Captain Murphy.
Some of my favourite music is Electronic. It's really a recent interest though. I like a lot of these so called "progressive electronic" groups, but I'm more geared towards a lot classic IDM and Ambient. Like artists off of Warp records: Boards Of Canada, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, you know all the 90's/modern stuff.
I thought FlyLo was Brainfeeder.
Nah, all his releases except for the debut have been on Warp. You'd think he'd been on his own label, but apparently not.
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Posted: April 26 2013 at 16:58
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Check it out:
Ambient, Chillwave, Downtempo, whatever you want to call it, this is some of best I've heard from the genre in more recent years.
I don't think it's electronic prog, it's more akin to electronica. 3'20 to 5'18 could even be played in a night club ! There is a band in this vein called Pacific!, check out their album 'Narcissus'.
Regarding electronic prog, I discovered recently a french band that is completely overlooked :
Also worth checking out : Software, Robert Schroeder, Bernd Kistenmacher, The Glimmer Room.
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted: April 26 2013 at 16:50
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Some of my favourite music is Electronic. It's really a recent interest though. I like a lot of these so called "progressive electronic" groups, but I'm more geared towards a lot classic IDM and Ambient. Like artists off of Warp records: Boards Of Canada, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, you know all the 90's/modern stuff.
I'm really big on Kraftwerk as well. It's just really interesting to see how Electronic music has evolved since then. Their innovation was astonishing.
Some of my favourite music is Electronic. It's really a recent interest though. I like a lot of these so called "progressive electronic" groups, but I'm more geared towards a lot classic IDM and Ambient. Like artists off of Warp records: Boards Of Canada, Aphex Twin, Flying Lotus, you know all the 90's/modern stuff.
erm...I find this category confusing, does anything qualify as Progressive Acoustic? I mean, a progressively minded musician will create progressive music on a synth or an acoustic guitar innit? - is it the technology that begets the music or vice versa?)
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