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Poll Question: how do you fel about Metallica being added ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 30 2008 at 11:40
I did use a sticky-out tongue to show that it was all in fun.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2008 at 11:15
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by Cloud Zero Cloud Zero wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

^Wow, I really understand the deep thought and appreciate the constructive criticism you've put into your post - most befitting of a collaborator.
 
Don't get me wrong Cert. It's not only about splattering a flaming comment on the thread to deeply explain our likes or dislikes upon Metallica based on retrospectives, facts or grounds. Think it's all about respectable opinions wheter they're possitive or negative and never offensive.
 
I love the crunch and vicious harshness of Metallica, but to me they don't belong here. I believe there's a place for them within the warps of heavy metal or whatever you wanna call it. They ain't prog, that's for sure.
 
Before performing my part of Collab in the PA, I'm like many other around here, a voice and an opinion. The tag I'm entitled to, means nothing to a personal matter of perspective. And you should now better than that for all the seniority over the PA that back you up. So I rather believe that with your comment you were just being moronic instead of sarcastic! Tongue
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2008 at 03:05
Heh, I never noticed that. I don't even know what to say, aahahaha.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2008 at 01:56
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

I too am glad to see that the site hasn't turned into MetallicaArchives with 40 topics a day on how great Metallica is and so forth. I've realized that this is probably just another passing fad like when everyone wanted to add hundreds of jazz artists here oh so long ago.
 
You see Avant? It was all calculated! Tongue
 
Yes, we have to praise our members' restraint this time. Metallica never got the album of the week unlike all other controversial additions!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 18:04
Originally posted by Cloud Zero Cloud Zero wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

^Wow, I really understand the deep thought and appreciate the constructive criticism you've put into your post - most befitting of a collaborator.
 
Don't get me wrong Cert. It's not only about splattering a flaming comment on the thread to deeply explain our likes or dislikes upon Metallica based on retrospectives, facts or grounds. Think it's all about respectable opinions wheter they're possitive or negative and never offensive.
 
I love the crunch and vicious harshness of Metallica, but to me they don't belong here. I believe there's a place for them within the warps of heavy metal or whatever you wanna call it. They ain't prog, that's for sure.
 
Before performing my part of Collab in the PA, I'm like many other around here, a voice and an opinion. The tag I'm entitled to, means nothing to a personal matter of perspective. And you should now better than that for all the seniority over the PA that back you up. So I rather believe that with your comment you were just being moronic instead of sarcastic! Tongue
 
Cheers amigo!
 
 
 
Oh, a sticky-out tongue just shows you were having fun, right?
 
I have a whole week's seniority over you, so shut the f**k up, OK. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 16:52
Yeah, get to work, Cloud Zero... Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 15:40
As I see you're online again Cloud - there's some work for you as a collab waiting. Check the progfreak charts; there's a few artists in our part of these that needs checking out and some voting ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 15:32
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ this may be a language problem, but a statement like "They ain't prog, that's for sure" ... sorry, that sounds a bit arrogant. Why are you so sure that you're right and we're wrong?
 
Not trying to show who's right or wrong since I'm not the one to judge anyone thoughts or beliefs. Is based upon honesty that I dare to affirm that Metallica, a heavy metal band (filed under that genre ever since I recall), are anything you guys wish, but not based a prog rock basis.
 
I hate to repeat myself but I underline, this is not a matter of narrowminded stupidity, it's a matter of perspective. Period.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 15:17
^ this may be a language problem, but a statement like "They ain't prog, that's for sure" ... sorry, that sounds a bit arrogant. Why are you so sure that you're right and we're wrong?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 15:15
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

^Wow, I really understand the deep thought and appreciate the constructive criticism you've put into your post - most befitting of a collaborator.
 
Don't get me wrong Cert. It's not only about splattering a flaming comment on the thread to deeply explain our likes or dislikes upon Metallica based on retrospectives, facts or grounds. Think it's all about respectable opinions wheter they're possitive or negative and never offensive.
 
I love the crunch and vicious harshness of Metallica, but to me they don't belong here. I believe there's a place for them within the warps of heavy metal or whatever you wanna call it. They ain't prog, that's for sure.
 
Before performing my part of Collab in the PA, I'm like many other around here, a voice and an opinion. The tag I'm entitled to, means nothing to a personal matter of perspective. And you should now better than that for all the seniority over the PA that back you up. So I rather believe that with your comment you were just being moronic instead of sarcastic! Tongue
 
Cheers amigo!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 15:04
Not all Metallica reviews have been positive :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 14:52
I too am glad to see that the site hasn't turned into MetallicaArchives with 40 topics a day on how great Metallica is and so forth. I've realized that this is probably just another passing fad like when everyone wanted to add hundreds of jazz artists here oh so long ago.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 06:38
would of been nice if Steeleye Span got the same sort of positive reviews


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 06:24
Yeah, good reviews what I have seen - without the site ever being in danger of turning into metallicareviews.com too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 05:26
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

It's kinda funny in a sad way to see some of the reactions coming here.

For about a month there was a thread going discussing this band's addition, where arguments were called for from both sides to get as fair a verdict and as good grounds as possible for evaluation.

Where were the people complaining now when this went on?

And even after the addition when people complain in here, the line of reasoning rarely ventures beyond the lines of "Metallica aren't progressive because I think so", "It's obvious that Metallica aren't progressive" od the classic "they don't belong here".

As when the possible addition was first discussed, there are no arguments, just statements.

Is it really that hard to find a line of reasoning and to actually analyze a little to be able to post some opinions based on a more factual foundation - rather than throwing knee jerk reactions around?
 
Comes with "post controversial addition territory" OlavWink The thread is almost frazzled and the circle long complete. The reviews in the main have been very good too I might add.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 05:02
^This whole thread was a bad idea (no offense intended to original poster).
It was obvious straight away where this thread would lead.
Someone was banned over this thread and we have the same unsubstantiated arguments happening again and again.. just a vicious cycle really.
It's probably just best people leave their post "yes, there were a great/soso/bad inclusion" to the site, rather than stirring up more flames and arguing over their perceived lack of progressiveness.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 04:55
It's kinda funny in a sad way to see some of the reactions coming here.

For about a month there was a thread going discussing this band's addition, where arguments were called for from both sides to get as fair a verdict and as good grounds as possible for evaluation.

Where were the people complaining now when this went on?

And even after the addition when people complain in here, the line of reasoning rarely ventures beyond the lines of "Metallica aren't progressive because I think so", "It's obvious that Metallica aren't progressive" od the classic "they don't belong here".

As when the possible addition was first discussed, there are no arguments, just statements.

Is it really that hard to find a line of reasoning and to actually analyze a little to be able to post some opinions based on a more factual foundation - rather than throwing knee jerk reactions around?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 04:27
"Frisco" ?    ..please




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 04:26
Originally posted by Cloud Zero Cloud Zero wrote:

I'm a headbanger alright, but I'm aware the Frisco band ain't  got nothing to do in the depths of the Archives, that's for sure.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2008 at 03:26
^Wow, I really understand the deep thought and appreciate the constructive criticism you've put into your post - most befitting of a collaborator.
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