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Atavachron 
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^ Just delete one of those posts--- next time you can highlight [blue] what you don't want to post, delete the high-lighted part, and hit Post Reply - |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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woundedpig
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Joined: May 07 2020 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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Posted: March 03 2023 at 08:27 |
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I liken seeing one of their new reviews to coming upon a horrible car crash on the road, wherein one is unable to tear the eyes away from the destruction and tragedy. You are free to call this a rant if you wish, but such reviews, and others recently, are in such contrast to the many, many other great contributors here, who attempt to be fair in describing their impressions - how they arrive at their ratings, whether 1-2 or 4-5 stars. These folks have helped me tremendously in my own musical journey. I at least know when to drive on by certain reviews/reviewers. Edited by woundedpig - March 05 2023 at 17:51 |
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siLLy puPPy
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PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15247 |
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 15:55 |
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^ maybe we could have a celebrity death match on PA where we all vote which reviews get deleted and figuratively tarred and feathered
That’s sounds fun! |
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Logan
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 13:40 |
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Apparently TELEFUNK is in Belgium, really!, and references The Restaurant at the End of the Universe as location despite, or more likely because of, Belgium, according to the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy being a very vulgar word, but awardable for most gratuitous use in media.
I read those reviews before being reported, and my immediate impression was that the person is a bit of a joker. I often like a bit of humour of the absurd variety in reviews, and personality, but it doesn't always come off, humour is very subjective, and can confuse others. The person/AI comment is rather unkind perhaps, but indicative of a lack of creativity and doing things by numbers -- 1s and 0s particularly. The 40 years comment in All Traps in Earth could refer to his age (I don't know if English is the first language in, and please excuse my French, Belgium or not), although I read it as indicating that this music is nothing new, retro, and music like this was being created 40 years ago. A little joke that doesn't quite work. "I can't see much freshness here, especially when the synths presets are heavily switched to saxophone" I didn't take literally. I think it was more of an issue when it was on the front page as default, and now its more one of many reviews. It would be a lazy reader to base their impressions on one review, which shows biases, and I know that I like to look at the info on musicians and what they played and year of release... I could PM him, but I'd rather just keep an eye on him at this time. Maybe someone who takes issue might like to drop comments on his reviews. I have tried to do that before but then realised I needed to log in to Facebook to post, and I don't use Facebook. As for more professional or competent reviews. This is a site of amateur writers, where high quality does happen, but I think we should be flexible. I don't like the idea of having to check every review before it is published. Partially because that is lot of unpaid work, I'm sure there are those who would be willing to do it although we have a smaller dedicated userbase to draw from now than years ago, but also because it can be off-putting and intimidating to new writers, and lead to more cliquiness perhaps.. I personally would like this site to be on the more embracing and less censoring side. If the reviews are regularly reviewed by staff and mostly approved in a very timely manner, it wouldn't be so bad. I was writing things years ago for a short films site, and it took days for approval to come often even though I knew there was nothing really concerning with what I wrote. That was a total turn-off for me. I don't want to feel like I'm being graded with my writing or like BB is always watching and evaluating me. Just my two cents. Edited by Logan - March 02 2023 at 13:55 |
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 10:35 |
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I agree. I thought I was the only one. I did not realize the same reviewer posted the Zopp and Traps' reviews. Figures....I thought both reviews were fraudulent.
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Cristi
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 09:29 |
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This is what they are doing right. For example they got a rating abuse problem, much worse than PA ever had.
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 09:12 |
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My first thought is this would require more unpaid labor. Then again, what's the old saying? "Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure", or something along those lines. |
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 07:56 |
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Hahaha!
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Cristi
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 07:06 |
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PA should have done what metalstorm does with user reviews: they are pending for approval, if the mods think the review is ok, then it gets published on the site.
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progaardvark
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 06:43 |
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I miss those reviews from many years ago that were transformed using Google Translate (or was that called Babel something or other back then?). They were some of the most amusing reviews I've read on this site.
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tszirmay
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Posted: March 02 2023 at 06:05 |
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Some reviewers are AI , they have a "chip" on their shoulder
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 01 2023 at 23:28 |
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^Maybe professional isn't the right word. Competent?
The opinion portion of the reviews are open to whatever claims people want to make about the quality of content. But facts is facts and ahould be accurate when included in a review. |
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 01 2023 at 22:11 |
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^ Maybe, but reviews were never meant to be 'professional', that was kinda the point. |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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siLLy puPPy
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^ personally i think the time has come to up the criteria for
reviews on this site. These kinds of reviews lack any sort of
professionalism and are downright idiotic. Personally i think these
reviews should be.... terminated. |
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Tapfret
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All Traps on Earth "...stayed under my (the reviewer's) radar for AT LEAST 40 years..." by using that old trick of not existing for 30 of that and not releasing an album for 5 more.
Reviewer goes on to point out the lack of freshness, "...especially when the synths presets are heavily switched to saxophone". Even the reviewer has to be amazed at the keyboard preset that gives birth to the actual living, breathing form of saxophonist Fred Lindborg. Everyone has their own tastes, but come on. If you're going to write a review, at least spend 90 seconds to research the artist/album you are writing about. This reviewer also led his review of the latest Zopp album with a parenthetical suggestion that Ryan Stevenson may be AI. Edited by Tapfret - March 01 2023 at 19:23 |
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DamoXt7942
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No COI from Zopp.
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Atavachron
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You got an invite to the Mask Orgy?? I wanna see my contract dammit. Yes thanks Greg--- No good deed... |
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Tapfret
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I can live without those perks. Though the Prog Illuminati's Scaramouchie mask orgies sounded promising, turns out it's mostly just you guys that show up. Anyway, thanks for taking care of that Greg. Edited by Tapfret - February 19 2023 at 21:31 |
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Atavachron
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^ And when you do that he'll become more convinced that we're all secretly getting... what, free music? (happens all the time and rarely impacts a review); money? (hah! we wish); free tickets to the Tampa Prog & Psych Festival? (they can keep them) . You can't win with people like that . Edited by Atavachron - February 19 2023 at 20:41 |
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Logan
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Posted: February 19 2023 at 19:49 |
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^ I'm going to edit M's Zopp review and PM the author (normally I like PM first but that can be a long process). Such speculation would better suit the forum, but would still, I'm confident, by very misjudged. It's hardly just collabs who have appreciated those albums very much.
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