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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2014 at 13:41
There were select songs by 5 UU's that were good and very much like what would have happened if Yes kept inventing new styles. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2014 at 13:35
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

If I had heard Art Zoyd's "Le Mariage du Ciel et de l' Enfer" in 1972 after my discovery of Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick", I would have most likely told you that it was "Progressive Rock". This is a distant observation into the world of music progressing. If people become discouraged over the last 10 years of "Neo Prog', they can always refer back to the underground  Prog bands of the 80's and 90's. Many of them were not clones of something written in music or someone that wrote it.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 11:34
If I had heard Art Zoyd's "Le Mariage du Ciel et de l' Enfer" in 1972 after my discovery of Jethro Tull's "Thick As A Brick", I would have most likely told you that it was "Progressive Rock". This is a distant observation into the world of music progressing. If people become discouraged over the last 10 years of "Neo Prog', they can always refer back to the underground  Prog bands of the 80's and 90's. Many of them were not clones of something written in music or someone that wrote it.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 09:35
NERD (Pharrell's band) had this album Fly or Die which isn't half bad.   That band was reasonably successful, so the way he seemingly sprang out of the woodwork with Happy is strange.  Voice is maybe the most tolerable of the big music reality shows, which isn't saying a whole lot. But at least the singing isn't too bad and sometimes the contestants can surprise, like Jean Kelley's performance of Chandelier.   The song selections are very unappetizing (for me), that's the main problem. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 09:22
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Flame not out--Pharrell ----hippest songwriter producer of our time was on The Voice wearing a Yes tour tee shirt.Cool

You watch 'The Voice'?! Is it any good?! I watch Strictly so I can't say muchLOL . At least it has Dave Arch who once played in Greg Lake's touring band. Prog creeping into Saturday nights on the BEEBSmile

Do I watch The Voice? No--I channel surf and end up on it for like 3 minutes at a time this season to see Pharrell and Gwen Stephanie as both have had some songs I appreciated but no never sat there for 2 hours and stared at the TV--my brother and a friend texted me with the Yes shirt info---knowing I'm a huge fan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 09:15
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:


Has the flame carried by the innovators of this very divisive genre finally gone out?

YES!

Your children will grow up and you die and your "influence" will be over at any time!







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 08:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 07:25
Nope, but the fire has definitely spread to other fields than prog. The part that made prog musicians truly progressive in their day is often found in modern electronic music. The search for an altogether new sonic expression and the freedom and will to explore it, yep go to the electronic genre to look for that. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 06:08
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

^ Pharrell is hugely talented, make no mistake. Longevity remains to be seen. his work with Nike Rodgers and Daft Punk was especially good.


Again, your definition of "especially good" in no way coincides with mine. But to each his own. Let's just agree that wearing a Yes t-shirt on an inane show like The Voice does not in any way translate into musical influence.

I base good on gut reaction and I liked Happy.  Seems like a decent pop song to me.  Other than that I haven't heard anything else.

The flame has only gone out if you think punk killed prog.   If you think no good prog has been made after the '70's.  If you ignore the the new generation of old prog fans that are making new music...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 00:30
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Flame not out--Pharrell ----hippest songwriter producer of our time was on The Voice wearing a Yes tour tee shirt.Cool

You watch 'The Voice'?! Is it any good?! I watch Strictly so I can't say muchLOL . At least it has Dave Arch who once played in Greg Lake's touring band. Prog creeping into Saturday nights on the BEEBSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 00:16
I was being facetious---we must laugh in the face of adversity. But still Pharrell has good taste.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 22:13
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

^ Pharrell is hugely talented, make no mistake. Longevity remains to be seen. his work with Nike Rodgers and Daft Punk was especially good.


Again, your definition of "especially good" in no way coincides with mine. But to each his own. Let's just agree that wearing a Yes t-shirt on an inane show like The Voice does not in any way translate into musical influence.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 21:52
^ Pharrell is hugely talented, make no mistake. Longevity remains to be seen. his work with Nike Rodgers and Daft Punk was especially good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 21:37
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Flame not out--Pharrell ----hippest songwriter producer of our time was on The Voice wearing a Yes tour tee shirt.Cool

So, I guess that makes you "Happy"? Somehow, I do not share the feeling, nor do I have the same definition regarding the phrase "hippest songwriter". It's rather like seeing some addled, newfangled teen popster wearing a Hendrix or Floyd shirt. It is an accessory, not a musical statement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 21:05
Flame not out--Pharrell ----hippest songwriter producer of our time was on The Voice wearing a Yes tour tee shirt.Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 17:01
Hackett is an exception to the rule.  He spent those golden years having a giant ass clamp put on his creativity. He had to get out of Genesis to shine ...as did Gabriel.  As did Collins LOL  Even Rutherford.

I think that means...  well...Tony Banks is the devil I tell yah
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 16:54
I'm currently listening to Steve Hackett's 'Out of the Tunnel's Mouth' and it's quite good. Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 16:32
No Gilmour, Wright, Waters writing credits no Floyd
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 15:51
Originally posted by tomlanesound tomlanesound wrote:

No Syd means no Floyd

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2014 at 15:33
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Viva Roger Waters........amen!


Amen brother Chris!

Floyd went down the toilet still with him (or because of him hahah), but they would have been worth caring about WITHOUT him in the first place. 
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