Worldwide solidarity with Gaza

akamaisondufromage wrote: If a man slaps you in the face you don't punch his kids.

I will if stands behind them as a shield, and then peeps again to go for another one, hoping I will spare him because of his children. That's what happening in real life btw.

Just today I watched a video on the news, showing a tunnel coming from the parents bedroom (used to smuggle ammunition) and in the kitchen childrens plates with last night's dinner, this is nuts.

You can't hide behind civilians firing missiles and complain about me killing the ones you're hiding behind.

800-some to 30-some death counts isn't a war.  It's a massacre.

Estimates hover around 75% of dead Palestinians being civilians.

And yet Israel's pocket politicians here in the west continuously go "yeah well if they didn't elect Hamas blah blah blag"

Besides the whole thing is about Israel ignoring UN in the first place and trying to steal all the land.  It's blatantly obvious that Israel isn't interested in a peaceful solution.

(not gonna reopen this thread btw too many politics for a music site)


Edited by Triceratopsoil - July 26 2014 at 13:02

Sagichim wrote: Blacksword wrote: sleeper wrote: ^Well put. The two sides are, without doubt, as bad as each other. I totally agree. Bad on both sides... I do feel that the Israeli approach is disproportionate, but there is no simple solution, and the biggest problem is that the citizens of Gaza - especially the kids - who just want peace risk being radicalised and filled with hatred for Israel, thus lining up the next generation of terrorists. This is one of the key factors in perpetuating the fight from one generation to the next imo. How is it disproportionate? because of the numers of deaths? well I can assure you that if we didn't have that new system Iron Dome Israel would take approximately 3000 missiles up till now, that would hit populated areas and numbers of deaths in Israel could be just the same or even more. So maybe then would it be justified to act as we do?I mean if a man slaps you in the face do you punch back only if it hurts you?

Depends why he has slapped you... A silly analogy.

It looks disproportionate to me from where I am. It doesn;t seem that way to you of course, partly because you are there. I'm not getting into a debate as to what would be proportionate to my mind. There would be no point as neither of us are going to convince the other of their perspective.

I'll leave it there just adding that I hope you are safe where you are.

This thread should be called "Me posting videos and pictures and reproducing someone else's comments trying to get a visceral reaction from others who make good arguments but which I will conveniently ignore".

Israeli female soldiers have been disciplined after posting pictures of themselves in their underwear on Facebook

I'm in complete support of Isreal here, they have the right to defend themselves from terrorists. The cowards hide amongst the women and children not caring that they put them at risk. I'm so glad our government is 100% behind Isreal.

The last thing I'm gonna say to you Svetonio cause you're just talking to yourself here and that's all you care about.
I'm up for two states, I really am, what benefit do you think we are getting by occupying these very small piece of land?
We don't live there and it costs a lot of money, you know Israel is supplying electricity and water (yes to the terrorists too). But there are ways to get your freedom, and if they continue this way I hope Israel's aggression will only increase.

My favourite politician ever, Marshal Tito of Yugoslavia, with his friend Yasser Arafat.

Edited by Svetonio - July 26 2014 at 04:35