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akaBona

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Posted: March 15 2014 at 17:28

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Posted: March 14 2014 at 23:04

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I am currently in the proces of falling head over heels for Schulze's X. I didn't get it when I first purchased it, but then again there was just so much other fantastic material to choose from, so why bother?
Well I have officially come around now!

You've got to check out the La Vie Electronique series, especially 4. It has one of the coolest tracks I've ever heard from him.

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Posted: March 12 2014 at 09:39

I am currently in the proces of falling head over heels for Schulze's X. I didn't get it when I first purchased it, but then again there was just so much other fantastic material to choose from, so why bother?
Well I have officially come around now!

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Posted: March 12 2014 at 09:35

Thanks a billion Bruce:-) I am stranded on my silly phone until late next week, which means no streaming music. Maybe I'll receive my new iphone before that, but I doubt it.

The way you describe it makes it sound perfect for my tastes!

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Posted: March 12 2014 at 09:22

Attention guys - highest possible recommendation!

http://cosmicground.bandcamp.com/

Cosmic Ground is a solo project by Dirk Jan Müller, Keyboard player of Electric Orange.

Dirk Jan Müller: mu modular, eurorack modular, fender rhodes, mellotron, moog sub phatty, philicorda, farfisa compact, farfisa professional duo, solina string ensemble, roland rs202, korg ms20, roland sh1000, hohner string melody II, elka rhapsody, nord wave, moog voyager, hohner clavinet, oberheim sem, korg mini-pops, leslie 760, hohner orgaphon...........no MIDI used.

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I implore you, give this one a spin, anyone who misses the proper Berlin-styled space albums from the 70's will want to snap this one up right away, I'm about to order it myself.

A haunting deep-space Mellotron canvas to get wrapped up in.

Dave, I really think this is exactly what you'd enjoy, knowing how much you like those early TDream and Schulze albums.

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 19:42

Really enjoying Gunter Schickert's Samtvogel record right now. It's my first spin but very impressed.

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 13:43

I don't know about TD in live setting these days, but the gig in Tivoli is supposed to be the world premier of 'Sorcerer'. They've never played it live before, so I guess it should be interesting to see, if only for nostalgic purposes.

I can't go, but I have a few buddies of mine attending.

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 13:16

TD is playing in Paris in may, and a few people (some French ambient/cosmic musicians) discouraged me to go and see them: not only it's quite expensive (50 euros for the cheapest places!), but these musicians criticized what Froese may have produced for a few decades...

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 12:56

What an odd question.

What?

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 12:26

While we're at the subject, are TD still worth seeing live? They're playing in Copenhagen in April...

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 09:48

dr wu23 wrote:

Not a huge fan of prog electronic but I do play TD and some Eno from time to time....particularly Zeit , Phaedra, Rubycon by TD and Another Green World and Science by Eno.

Interesting to hear that some folks pointed out their vision for these, and even brought out historical mentions and such.

Both Zeit and Atem, for me, are VERY ambient, and I think they kinda help bring the idea/sound to the foreground.

Phaedra, was a more "literal story" for me, than otherwise, though there is a similar moment (shorter) in Atem as well. Phaedra I think is just a title, and not necessarily anything else for a piece of music that builds up to a crescendo, similar to an orgasm in sex. I don't even think the title, helps the feeling inside the whole piece, and could have a tendency to distort the real issue, but I doubt that many of us would have liked to see it titled "Sex 101" or something just as crude.

Rubycon, is similar to Edgar's "Epsilon in Malaysian Pale" for me, and I do not think that it was meant to be one thing or another, and that it might just have been a better study and definition to some of their new equipment at the time.

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 09:30

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Even then, today many rock producers don't seem to have any idea what to do with digital production. Hence the recent fad for going back to 1970s/1980s-style analog recording.

I SOOOOOOOOOOO agree with this, and I kinda think that Steven Wilson is a good example. Like "moving an instrument" from left to the center and behind, really makes it all different.

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Posted: March 03 2014 at 02:51

It's System 7 and Rovo live in Manchester Ritz this. Really looking forward to it Tongue

. Phoenix Rising was one of my favourite albums of last year.

Plenty of alcohol and grooving in order Wink

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I know System 7 aren't on pa but they're certainly electronic and pretty progressive too.

Rovo are insane.

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Posted: March 02 2014 at 11:52

Not a huge fan of prog electronic but I do play TD and some Eno from time to time....particularly Zeit , Phaedra, Rubycon by TD and Another Green World and Science by Eno.

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Posted: March 01 2014 at 11:10

Radio Massacre International and Heldon would be my favourites and perhaps it's not a coincidence that both feature guitar, but it's the mellotron that really makes Radio Massacre International my favourite Electronic band. Edgar Froese is great too.

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Posted: March 01 2014 at 07:54

Yes, it's interesting that even a casual appraisal of what types of digital audio plug-in are available for the modern producer reveals a preponderance of pseudo analogue retro beasties e.g. add grit, grunge, dirt, artefacts, aliasing and warmth to your carefully prepared but sterile digital recordings with the 64 bit floating point Putrifier Destructor with an algorythm based on George Martin's favorite Abbey Road hardware filters. We appear to be creating a soundworld in which we pay contra cleaners to dirty the windows Confused

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Posted: March 01 2014 at 07:38

Even then, today many rock producers don't seem to have any idea what to do with digital production. Hence the recent fad for going back to 1970s/1980s-style analog recording.

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Posted: March 01 2014 at 07:35

Toaster Mantis wrote:

Not to mention that guitar-based music still lags way behind electronic music in terms of taking advantage of developments in production/recording technology, and has done so for several decades by now. In fact, that's one of the main reasons I got into electronic music to begin with back in 2010 or so.

Fair comment and demonstrably true but spare a thought for your average PC literate axe slinger - he/she has been excluded from the digital revolution since the advent of MIDI (1981) purely because music software developers could only author programs or interfaces that were keyboard centric. Guitar synthesis has been a black art for a very long time due in no small measure to the difficulties in replicating the subtle performance nuances, string bending/legato, vibrato and microtonal aspects of guitar playing to be understood by a PC.
There have been improvements in the tracking capabilities of the software involved (e.g. Jam Origin from Scandinavia) but given that this problem is now over 30 years old, I think it fairly safe to assume that a solution was never a priority for the software companies like Steinberg, Cakewalk, Apple (Logic), Mark of the Unicorn etc because it was never considered viable to invite the troublesome luddite six stringer to the DAW party. Please don't confuse Kaspar Hauser with the spoiled kid who plays in his own faeces and complains that a social worker touched him on the bottom. Wink

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Posted: March 01 2014 at 06:59

Not to mention that guitar-based music still lags way behind electronic music in terms of taking advantage of developments in production/recording technology, and has done so for several decades by now. In fact, that's one of the main reasons I got into electronic music to begin with back in 2010 or so.

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Posted: March 01 2014 at 06:54

Guldbamsen wrote:

I hope that one day this often overshadowed field of sound, gets treated the way it should. I hear Mozart and Chopin in TD. Then again, I hear something completely unique....like taking trips to the outskirts of the solar system.
I've been listening to Rubycon this morning

Regardless of the ultimate direction taken by PA in the years to come, Progressive Electronic represents the only slot we currently have into which we will have to place the majority of prescient music i.e. cos it won't sound like rawk or qualify as Prog by the current definitions nor will it attack convention by lobbing hand me down grenades from the sniper's nest afforded to that butter fingered catch-all: avant garde. I have this nagging feeling that the seamless fusing of electronic/acoustic audio and digital/analogue media sources where the origins of all are rendered inextricable will be an area of huge growth. (Stockhausen's Licht opera cycle kinda hints at this in places but I'm thinking of a visual, textual, tactile? perhaps a tad creepy Embarrassed

and auditory assault on the senses - given the advent of the internet, the exclusivity of the auditory phenomenon we define as music must now have a shelf life?) I ain't that crazy about any of the artists in PE just now (I saw Tangerine Dream live in Glasgow during the late 70's and for me, they made concrete blocks seem boisterously effervescent)..However, I reckon in less than 10 years none of us will be able to frame meaningful references that link historic popular music to the wondrous beasties that scuttle around under the Progressive Electronic ~~pebble rock~~ boulder.

BTW David, if you can hear Chopin and Mozart in Tangerine Dream then that is proof, if any were needed, that cosmiche Buskers in the future will work from home Wink

Edited by ExittheLemming - March 01 2014 at 07:05