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 Posted: December 15 2011 at 11:14 |
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King Crimson has five star albums. Rush does not.
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I agree.
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dave-the-rave
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 10:18 |
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Two bands that I respect, but with the possible exception of KC's 'Red,' neither has ever grabbed me emotionally. The real two giants are Yes and Floyd.
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 10:03 |
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Um, only trying to impress that they are different. If it's Rush or Genesis, I have some notions about their style and there is some continuity about the changes to it across albums, not least because of relatively more stable lineups. Because KC change so much, it is easier to dislike or like one or two formations rather than to dislike the band itself. And of course, you could turn around to what I am going to say and suggest any fan would say that about his favourite band, but KC is just hardwork. There was a time when I would have taken either of Rush or Genesis over them because most of their albums just seemed ok to me. My feelings about it couldn't be more different now. And of course, I viewed KC worship with skepticism at that time so I am not really going to try to convince somebody to dig deeper. Will only restrict myself to saying that it's more likely that one or two albums from some or the other formation make a bad impression on someone who doesn't like KC (and of course, it need not be the case at all, just a general observation).
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 09:45 |
rogerthat wrote:
^^^ I think ExittheLemming said this once and probably addressed to the same member. That if you don't like KC, what it really means is you probably haven't found that side of them that you could like. They are unlike most other prog rock bands, at least the big names, in that they have straddled such a long span of time and adapted to the musical trends in each and not just carried on with their style, oblivious to developments. They have also experimented with so many approaches, be it composition, or the marriage of composition and improvisation on LTIA-Red, or smart, mobile rock if it could be called that on Discipline. So on and so forth. It is difficult even for a KC fan to enjoy all of their work, such is their diversity but there is really no such thing as a point where you may get off with KC. |
Seems like you are trying very hard to make people understand why they may not like KC.......or maybe why they should like KC?
I only own In the Court on vinyl and will eventually get the remastered vinyl version, Santa knows, its a wonderful album. I don't own any other KC albums just because what I have listened to does not interest me, its just OK, but not enough to spend money on. Maybe I will see if my local record store has used vinyl copies, I might do that.
I don't care about number ratings, if I like it I will always press PLAY........so for me that choice is heavily weighted to Rush, although last night I did spin Side 2 of In the Court.......I'll probably play it again next month.
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 09:12 |
Dellinger wrote:
I really thought KC would be winning this poll by a much wider margin. I do like what I've heard of Rush, but I would say KC has reached higher peaks than Rush.
Anyone can think of at least one Rush song that could win a poll against "Starless"? |
For me, yes. I'll list some:
The Pass
YYZ (and just about every other track on Moving Pictures. actually)
Red Barchetta
La Villa Strangiato
Bastille Day
Something for Nothing
Jacob's Ladder.....
I could go on for some time.
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TerLJack
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 07:57 |
I didn't really think this poll was all that random, as both had three distinct "classic" periods. Rush- Hard Rock/Symphonic/synth-driven KC- Symphonic/Proto-Metal?/rhythm-based I had a tough time here, but it came to: Could I name a great (for me) album from each period? It was then I voted for King Crimson.
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 06:43 |
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Interesting poll. While I do enjoy a lot of KC, I can't listen to them for long periods, where Rush, maybe with the exception of Snakes and Arrows, I can listen to anytime and for a long time. Never get tired of them.
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Libor10
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 02:48 |
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I love Rush period from 2112 to, say, Signals. After this my interest to their music slowly evaporated. They are great but I hardly listen to them in these days. KC on the other hand has still something interesting one could look for in their music. Even the post 80's period which I didn't like too much started growing in me. All in all, ten or more years ago would have won Rush, today I have to go with KC.
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Posted: December 15 2011 at 01:07 |
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Totally different beast -- and I love both -- but Rush has brought me more pleasure over the years.
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 23:08 |
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^^^ I think ExittheLemming said this once and probably addressed to the same member. That if you don't like KC, what it really means is you probably haven't found that side of them that you could like. They are unlike most other prog rock bands, at least the big names, in that they have straddled such a long span of time and adapted to the musical trends in each and not just carried on with their style, oblivious to developments. They have also experimented with so many approaches, be it composition, or the marriage of composition and improvisation on LTIA-Red, or smart, mobile rock if it could be called that on Discipline. So on and so forth. It is difficult even for a KC fan to enjoy all of their work, such is their diversity but there is really no such thing as a point where you may get off with KC.
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 22:59 |
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I really, really don't like King Crimson |
Interesting---I think generally they are not easy on the ears---I more admire lot's of their material and recognize their importance---and really followed them because I'm a Bruford fanboy---listened more to their Discipline period than any other.
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 22:37 |
Horizons wrote:
In the Court of the Crimson King isn't a 5* album. |
Yeah even as huge KC fan I have to say it's like a 3ish. However, Red alone is better than anything Rush has made combined. OK that's extreme, but Ill stick with it :D
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 21:15 |
Catcher10 wrote:
KC brilliance lasted for a couple albums after the big one and then it kinda died off, albeit the importance of that one album is very evident, the influence is massive for sure. Even Rush know it as they play KC before their shows......... |
Not really...the Wetton lineup happened during that post-couple of albums phase and then Discipline with a changed lineup. If anything, I'd take LTIA, Red and Discipline over ITCOTCK which is influential but not as enjoyable as these.
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 21:12 |
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Anyone can think of at least one Rush song that could win a poll against "Starless"? |
Er, if fanboys could vote Geddy the best rock keyboardist, they would vote Main Monkey Business over Starless. 'We' have no chance.  
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 21:11 |
JJLehto wrote:
Rush is good but KC is one of my all time favorite bands.
IM(not so)HO the comparison is ridiculous. One is pretty much a hard rock band that has some progressiveness and the other defines what is prog rock
KC is more....creative and interesting, and changed it up often. Rush is a good listen.
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Agree strongly.
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 20:17 |
As difficult a decision as this might be it really is not that difficult for me. Rush have created something very special over the past 35 years and it is only now that it is becoming very evident the brilliance that is Rush. KC brilliance lasted for a couple albums after the big one and then it kinda died off, albeit the importance of that one album is very evident, the influence is massive for sure. Even Rush know it as they play KC before their shows.........
But Rush have done so much more and their influence continues to grow and you can see it in the band members that all they want to do is keep going, looking for that next great performance and recording.
The Rush train is still rolling..........no sign of stopping either. I think the day Rush hang it up will have a much bigger reaction/impact as compared to KC not recording anymore.
Rush
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 20:00 |
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In the Court of the Crimson King isn't a 5* album.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Progmind
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 19:58 |
Epignosis wrote:
Rush has five star albums. King Crimson does not.
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What?????????? In my opinion KC has five star albums ITCOCK Red Larks Tongues in Aspic Lizard Discipline Rush has too I like and enjoy a lot Hemispheres, Moving Pictures, A farewell to Kings, Permanet waves
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 19:08 |
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Cyngus X-2 :D
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Dellinger
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Posted: December 14 2011 at 19:05 |
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I really thought KC would be winning this poll by a much wider margin. I do like what I've heard of Rush, but I would say KC has reached higher peaks than Rush.
Anyone can think of at least one Rush song that could win a poll against "Starless"?
Edited by Dellinger - December 14 2011 at 19:07
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