Can teenagers Enjoy early Genesis?

Zombywoof wrote: Of course it is! I'm 17 now, and although I enjoy Tull, Giant, Crimson, VDGG, Zappa, and Magma a whole lot more, I can appreciate some Genesis when I'm in the right mood. Just last summer, I bought Selling England and Foxtrot from amazon (in fact I got an amazon account just to buy these two albums!) and I rotated them in my cd player for about three weeks! I even asked for The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway as a gift, and still enjoy it to this day. As for  using Selling England to go to sleep to, I've always found Trespass a much better album for that purpose. The whole work is the audio equivalent  to a surreal dream. I love it!

A few people have told me Trespass is a better choice and i will give her that one tomorrow. i love the album and I think she will enjoy it.

Of course it is! I'm 17 now, and although I enjoy Tull, Giant, Crimson, VDGG, Zappa, and Magma a whole lot more, I can appreciate some Genesis when I'm in the right mood. Just last summer, I bought Selling England and Foxtrot from amazon (in fact I got an amazon account just to buy these two albums!) and I rotated them in my cd player for about three weeks! I even asked for The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway as a gift, and still enjoy it to this day. As for  using Selling England to go to sleep to, I've always found Trespass a much better album for that purpose. The whole work is the audio equivalent  to a surreal dream. I love it!

I laughed at this thread's title.

Of course teenagers can enjoy prog - they can enjoy every type of music just like everyone else. We're not stupid, you know. I'm 17, and the first genre of music I got into was prog, with Pink Floyd. I have diversified over the years, into metal, extreme metal, ambient, hard rock, experimental, and listen to lots of recent music. I don't listen to the radio - I hate it, and I hate almost all pop music that they'd play.

Why am I like this, whereas most people my age are not? My two brothers got into prog before me, and it was them who showed me how awesome it was (It was actually Pigs on Animals which got me into prog). Before that I had almost no interest in music at all. Then my dad's music, mostly prog stuff like Pink Floyd, or hard rock like Led Zeppelin, started to get digitized from vinyl format, and we got into his collection of stuff. Nobody listened to the radio in our house so that was the only influence.

In comparison, most other people have parent who like that kinda thing, or friends who like it. Radio is the easiest thing to listen to, hence it appeals to people, and hence it's convenient to enjoy the music on there.

So if you are desperate to get your daughter into prog, then continue as you are. Note that some degree of freedom should be encouraged - sure, you might dislike the modern stuff, but maybe she does enjoy it along with prog. I think as a father myself I'd hate to have to hear it but it might be a price worth paying for to allow some freedom.

On another note, I think teenagers connect with music very well - they're physically able and active, and have a lot of spare time to obsess over it (eg, learning an instrument) so if you want to get someone into prog, GET 'EM WHILE THEY'RE YOUNG.

Oh, and going to sleep to Genesis? That's intense. Might I suggest some Stars Of The Lid? Eluvium? Ambient music?

I'm 21 years old and I got to prog partially because of my dad, and two old records (on compact cassette's), that was lying around the house - Pink Floyd's Dark Side, and In The Court Of The Crimson King. It wasn't so long ago, about five years, but then I only had my cassette player and no money to buy records, no friends to borrow records. So I gave these two a shot :)

Wh1sKy wrote: absolutely.iam 18 y.old and i loved genesis since first hear them :).my fav song is dancing with moonlit knight.

wow your first post in my thread!

Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - June 07 2010 at 08:56

Progist wrote: I think the fact that she's listening to it at all shows great promise. SEBTP sure beats Miley Cyrus or whatever 13 year old girls listen to these days?

Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - June 07 2010 at 08:50

TODDLER wrote: AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: I ask this as my 13 yr old daughter asked me for some music to listen to as she settles down to sleep, as she knows i am way into music. I gave her Genesis' "Selling England By The Pound". She is listening to it right now, i heard 'Dancing With the Moonlit Knight' a moment ago.   I hope she can enjoy this type of music as I have heaps to give her if so. Also I can talk to her about it and its important to have an interest with your teen daughters and sons.   My question is then is it possible for teens to enjoy this type of early prog rather than the stuff on the radio that is churned out? I hope so, as then we would have a common interest. Interesting thought....     I deal more with toddlers. I know I'm going off thread a bit but, just for another viewpoint regarding parents relation with their children in music, the parent must review the material first hand. Example: I was confident with Magical Mystery Tour watching my 7 and 4 year old boys singing the words and playing drums. My nine year old daughter stood and sang while dancing. Everything seemed fine until "Strawberry Fields Forever" came along and my daughter was in terror and I stopped the music to hold her. Actually, it was a mess. All 3 of my kids love the Yellow Submarine film and also Help! and listen to the entire Beatles catalog while skipping over S.F.F.....They seem to request a lot of insane children's songs like..."Bike" from Pink Floyd Relics. I had thought that tune to be on the darkside regarding some of the effects and hesitated upon playing it for them...but, they love it     so maybe it's the atmosphere of S.F.F. that brings terror. They request...'I'm so Cute" from Frank Zappa, my 4 year old sings the words to Sunny Afternoon by the Kinks and my daughter enjoys Russian Winter by Omega and the early Genesis. In observation many of the pieces I've mentioned are childlike in a musical approach and in the lyrics. She loves the lyrics of Peter Gabriel because she thinks he is telling her a story. She is drawn into the band's music for that fact alone.She understands play acting and that is a plus. You have to take precautions with electronic music....It's fine if the background has a Wendy Carlos feel or Johannes Schmoelling but, it's not good to play TD. As everyone here knows this fact however, your judgement is never an exact science when choosing the musical agenda for your children. Some children feel afraid of a melodic folk song.

Intriguing and i can see how Strawbery Fields would scare young children. My little 4 yr old boy loves yello wSubmarine and is always singing it and he enjoys Octopuses garden but i would never play revolution 9 to him.  I would be careful to play anything dark as I dont want to encourage it really. If my daughter gets into emo music that will be a sad day for me personally but what can you do? I do my best to vbring them up in what way suits best. and its up to them what they get into. i know she was very interested in the DVD Musical war of the Worlds I grabbed at the concert I attended. Jeff waynes WotW is scary in places too especually the martian war machines but she understood it was musical experience and had no probs with the creepiness of it. Shes getting interested in twilight now and that concerns me a bit as it is vampirish. I showed her Avatar last week, her first M film but I was there with her to explain parts. She enjoyed it and it was nice to watch a decent film with her for a change. 

AtomicCrimsonRush wrote: I ask this as my 13 yr old daughter asked me for some music to listen to as she settles down to sleep, as she knows i am way into music. I gave her Genesis' "Selling England By The Pound". She is listening to it right now, i heard 'Dancing With the Moonlit Knight' a moment ago.   I hope she can enjoy this type of music as I have heaps to give her if so. Also I can talk to her about it and its important to have an interest with your teen daughters and sons.   My question is then is it possible for teens to enjoy this type of early prog rather than the stuff on the radio that is churned out? I hope so, as then we would have a common interest. Interesting thought....

I can't see any reason why not. I was 12 when I got into prog, myself (currently 44 BTW). I have a 2 1/2 year-old daughter wth whom I listen to a wide range of music, including symphonic, neo-, and cross-over prog. She will often ask me to put some music on, and when she asks for "fast music," I know she wants to listen to Rush. She has described Yes as "happy music," and applied the descriptor "nice music" to more prog bands than I can name here. I think it's a matter of exposure, and of respecting her own growing tastes; i.e. if she doesn't like something, I take it off and find something more to her liking. I will also need to remain open, once she gets older and starts exploring music on her own, to the posibility of her introducing me to bands I might not otherwise encouter or seek out. Fair is fair. Then we will both have something to offer.

Thats encouraging to read all these posts - i think she will enjoy them but it wil take time for her to adjust to the different style. She may like Yes better but they have so many long songs it may shock her LOL