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Dean
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 18:06 | ||||
Who could fault a band named after a character from Barbarella who invented the Excessive Machine?
A band also noted for being half of Arcadia, that featured guitar by David Gilmour and Carlos Alomar, keys by Herbie Hancock and bass by Mark Egan.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 17:55 | ||||
^ No mention about 70s music buffs who went on to became 80s music buffs? I know a few.
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Dean
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 17:52 | ||||
A fair number of people are not only familiar with, but also very informed about a lot of music from the 80s that goes a little deeper than the synth-pop mentioned so far, bands like Magazine, XTC, PIL, Random Hold, The Explorers, The Europeans, The Sound, Comsat Angels, Icicle Works, Slow Children, The Stranglers, The Cure, The Banshees/The Glove/The Creatures, Passage, Tuxedomoon, World Of Twist, Dukes Of The Stratosphere, Ultravox!/John Foxx, Head Of David, Spliff/Nina Hagen, Chrome, Gentlemen Without Weapons, All About Eve, Bauhaus, Fields Of The Nephilim, The Pop Group, Pop Will Eat Itself, The Psychedelic Furs and The Punishment of Luxury have all been discussed by people on this forum over the years (and probably a lot more I've forgotten).
However the decade between 1977 and 1992 () does present a bit of a problem simply because of demographics: the older generation who grew up on Prog out-grew their teenage obsession with music and had moved on to more serious pasttimes like family, career and mortgage; the middle generation missed out on Prog then and now so the few that visit here didn't discover it during their "youth" years like the rest of us; and the younger generation hadn't been born.
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boo boo
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 16:51 | ||||
You shouldn't rely on people here to know too much about musical movements outside of prog.
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Dean
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 16:35 | ||||
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PinkPangolin
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 15:33 | ||||
Going back to the original question - I'm sorry but the 80's were hideous - all music seems infected with it's 80ishness yuk!
Ah... but... one very good thing as the 80's started to close - like a phoenix rising out of the ashes of Prog, came Porcupine Tree. A large proportion of "On the Sunday of Life" was recorded in the late 80's - it was a most peculiar album - like a new Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd - for me it was psychedelia re-born - the beginning of Prog's gradual revival through the 90's to become the new spectacularly good beast it is today. pp |
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boo boo
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 15:12 | ||||
I like Duran Duran because they made really good pop songs? And I don't like Toto because they were incredibly boring and bland?
I don't really hate The Pogues, I just don't care for them, I'm not the right person to appreciate their music I guess. I'm not a drunk. Edited by boo boo - March 07 2011 at 15:16 |
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lazland
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 13:09 | ||||
I see your point now, although I would question your not highly rated argument - I like them all.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 10:25 | ||||
So? Since when did carrying a tune make somebody goddamn awesome? You just jeered at Toto sometime back in the thread, they had a good singer. Going by your definition, they are goddamn awesome. OK, I know that's not what you said, but if you get into an argument, at least attempt to back up your points well. Is that really that you like about Duran Duran? Most likely not, but instead of stating that, you make an unconvincing comparison.
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: March 07 2011 at 10:10 | ||||
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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The_Jester
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 08:46 | ||||
For me, there was a down in the 80's for progressive rock but I'm sure there was still good things made wich are none of a new orientation took by a 70's band or neo-prog. |
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: March 07 2011 at 01:24 | ||||
Hence why I said in my opinion. I don't like punk, hip hop, or much of anything else you listed. It's also sort of a no brainer that all decades have bad music. But even with popular music, I'll take what was popular in the 90's and even now over the crap from the 1980's. And hey, I like INXS, Talking Heads, Marillion, the Police, and more. I don't have a problem booboo and once again this is just my opinion.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 23:34 | ||||
I wouldn't say the 80s were the strongest for AP - though many groups were putting out good stuff on the AP scene, most of the best started in the mid-to-late 70s and were continuing on. IMO (as if anyone would be surprised at this opinion) I do think that AP was the strongest faction of prog in the 80s.
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boo boo
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 23:31 | ||||
I agree that it was a weak decade for prog. Not for avant prog though, the 80s was a VERY good decade for avant garde music.
But yeah, not even close to being a bad decade for music in general, yeah there was crappy pop music, guess what? EVERY decade had that, every decade has good pop music too, including the 80s.
I think the early 80s had a lot of excellent stuff going on with post punk, hardcore, new wave and metal, the late 80s saw the arrival of some great alternative bands as well as the rapid development of hip hop. If all you can associate the 80s with is the worst synth pop and hair metal than that's your problem. Edited by boo boo - March 06 2011 at 23:37 |
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 23:21 | ||||
I like Talking Heads and Marillion enough, but I think I'll still agree that it was a pretty weak decade. Not only for prog, but for music in general. In my opinion anyway.
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boo boo
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 23:21 | ||||
They may not be artistic geniuses, but they can carry a tune.
This guy on the other hand....................
Edited by boo boo - March 06 2011 at 23:21 |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 23:16 | ||||
Yes, the same three year-old who controls your musical tastes, obviously.
I'm out of this conversation. When someone says, in all seriousness, that Duran Duran was G.D. awesome, there is nothing further in the way of meaningful discussion.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 23:09 | ||||
1980s prog I like:
Hugh Hopper/Alan Gowen - Two Rainbows Daily Present - Triskaidekaphobie, Le Poison Qui Rend Fou Talking Heads - Remain in Light Alan Gowen et al. - Before A Word Is Said BOC - Fire of Unknown Origin Dün - Eros Eider Stellaire King Crimson - Discipline (one of their best for me) Magma - Retrospektiw I-II, Retrospektiw III Rush - Moving Pictures Univers Zero - Ceux du Dehors Katra Turana - Katra Turana Zappa - The Perfect Stranger Yog Sothoth Eskaton - 4 Visions NEO Museum Cardiacs - A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window, On Land and In the Sea, Songs for Ships and Irons Shub-Niggurath - Les Morts Vonte Vite Maybe not as many great albums as some other decades, but still a pretty good list there if I may say so. |
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boo boo
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 23:07 | ||||
Crock of Seagulls? Do you have your 3 year old writing puns for you now? I don't like Flock of Seagulls or Mr Mister, and those bands are about as new wave as Styx are metal. There are some crappy pop bands in the 80s who took the new wave label but they really weren't new wave at all.People also confuse new wave with synth pop. Real new wave would be Talking Heads, Blondie, The Cars, B-52s, Elvis Costello, The Romantics, etc. I do think much of the best new wave was in the late 70s. Back then new wave was not even that heavy on synths, some bands didn't use synths at all, it was actually quite guitar dominated. It was just good pop music with a bit of a punk flavour.
As for Duran Duran, they were goddamn awesome. Edited by boo boo - March 06 2011 at 23:16 |
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 06 2011 at 22:56 | ||||
*Rob's head-shaking blue emoticon* |
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