Baseball

Lou Pinella deserves all the credit in the world. He turned the Cubs around completely. They really deserve a championship.

rileydog22 wrote: ProgBagel wrote: I'm not saying the Yankees are making the playoffs, but lets be honest here. 40 something games left to gain ground, which is just 6 games behind the Red Sox? Don't forget one point in the season the Yanks lost 5 straight and the Orioles won 5. So it only took the Orioles 5 games to gain 5 games on the Yankees.... It really isn't that Farfetch'd. That is ample time. Last years Phillies and Mets anyone? That was REALLY under the pinch. The Yankees have NOTHING on the Phillies miraculous comeback, if they do it. That's a Pokemon lol.  But yeah, the Phillies came back from a worse deficit in less games, so it isn't unreasonable.  But right now it feels like the Yanks flat-out don't care, and you can't pull a rally like that unless everybody's putting everything into every game.

I had the Pokemon in mind . .

So anyway, just talked about it. Now Melky is out and in the minors...not against that move, although he is one of the best fielders...his bat just can't do it. I couldn't understand why they put Gardner in the minors in the first place. With him and Christiansen for pinch runner options..they can steal some runs well.

Sexson is gone, but what were they expecting with him anyway?

Jim Leyland keeps writing Gary Sheffield's and Edgar Renteria's name in the line up and keeps putting Fernando Rodney and Todd Jones into games.  I think that is pretty much the manager's fault.  Granted it is not his fault that these guys aren't doing their jobs, but if he wouldn't keep going to these idiots they wouldn't keep failing.  Anyhow, sorry for the sorry grapes.  I generally do agree with the theory that it is the players than win and lose the games not the manager, but when the manager keeps doing the same stupid things over and over again you really have to wonder.

So looking at the Yankees, did Joe Torre really do a bad job last season and the previous years?

Yea, seeing the mets collapse like that was one of my happiest moments 
It's possible for the Yanks, if they fix their act.

rileydog22 wrote: My brother's an Eagles fan.  I'm starting to think it's just to piss me off.  It was wonderful, though, when we both were at that Giants-Eagles game where the Giants sacked McNabb 12 times.

YOU LUCKY BA*TARD!
My friend out here in school is a hardcore eagles fan and I send him that games highlights all the time!

And not to stray from baseball....

I don't know ProgBagel  I have to think the Yanks are done. Even if the cut the sh*t right now they have quite a few games to make up, and 2 if not 3 teams to try and jump to make it in the playoffs. Not to mention their injuries. I would love for them to make it in on a miracle, but Im not putting money on it

That's true.  I guess I just like the Cards and Brewers a lot more than anybody in the East.  

My brother's an Eagles fan.  I'm starting to think it's just to piss me off.  It was wonderful, though, when we both were at that Giants-Eagles game where the Giants sacked McNabb 12 times.  

Red Sox/kinda Yankee fan?  I find that hard to believe. 

I know you can't stay on top forever, but it's just really f**king discouraging to see that it isn't a lack of talent bringing the team down, but a lack of effort and mental awareness.  The team has been making stupid, inexcusable mistakes for weeks and weeks now.  Robinson looks like he flat-out doesn't give a sh*t.  Ian Kennedy got sent back down to AAA after one start because he has a terrible attitude; after his start he made a press conference in which he stated that he "pitched great" and he blamed the defense, bad luck, and basically everything that wasn't him for the fact that he got knocked around.
The pitching staff is a patchwork right now.  That makes sense, because the team's two best starters are on the DL, as is Hughes, the man who was expected to complete the rotation.  But even when the starting pitching comes through, the bullpen gives it away, or the defense gives it away, or the batting gives it away, or the baserunning gives it away.  It's a three hundred million dollar trainwreck out there.  

Edited by rileydog22 - August 13 2008 at 23:53