We -need- progressive rap.

I though I heard Sage--- before.

Whoever it was, it impressed me because they actually did not boast, brag, act cocky in their raps. Very subtle and very good

To me, rap has replaced Heavy Metal in a bad way with the uniform, silly bragging and "street image".

In Heavy Metal it was the biker gang image, where most of its listeners could not last 2 minutes in such a gang.

In rap, it is the street gang image, where such middle-class people who think it is cool, would not last two minutes in such a gang.

     ...like we need a hole in the head.

     On the other hand, the first rap I can think of came out of Progressive
corners...Gil Scott Heron, who rapped his politically conscious poetry over
jazz funk arrangements, and Frank Zappa. I can't think of an earlier
example of a rap than "I'm the Slime", from Overnight Sensation (1973).
Anyone got an earlier example of Rap?

Fantastic idea!! After prog-metal now we have prog-rap...why don't you accept you don't like prog and listen what you want without involving this noble genre?

NO WE DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

What is that stuff Traffic indulge in for the middle of Hole In My Shoe, or GG's in chrysalis state  on Kites. (Sounds like middle class rap and equally gibberish). Townshend uses rap for a great rearrangement of Who Are You (Lifehouse Project). Holdsworth has played on a hip hop album recently (Riptyde).  

And what is the vocoder (or the waterbag) used for by many singers: masking some rap when they can't properly sing it ......................

Never say never.

  Come on !  

  Rap/Hip Hop+prog

  I don`t even want to emagine what crap comes out of it.

  You cant mix prog with some stupid sh... 

  These are two very very different styles.They sound complitely different.

   Personally I dont want that kind of clown music near prog.

  

Genesisprog wrote:   I doubt that rap and progressive rock is possible to mix each other.   These are complitely different musics.

 

For goodness sake, that's exactly how progressive music evolved, the hybridisation of different musics. Gawd there is some ultra conservative wank been written above. What happened to the enlightened liberalism of the original proggers?

People say rap can't be mixed with prog because it's not melodic, but mixing two styles doesn't take something away. If you add melody to rap it doesn't suddenly stop becoming rap, and in fact in some ways this simplifies the matter because there are no "trademark" melodic features, so it would be much simpler to combine using the rhythmic elements of rap and the melodic elements of prog.

And where did the idea that prog is melodic, and not repeated anyway? It's only neo prog, symphonic prog (inc Italian), folk prog, art rock and a little prog metal that puts any real emphasis on melody, and long stretches of zeuhl songs are equally as repetitive as many rap beats.

"nuh uh!"

"yuh huh!"

"nuh uh!"

No you stop.