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Keeping this short. After reading Logan's post, the first artist I thought of before seeing any replies was Ted Nugent.
Skynyrd was mine of course for being such an ABB fan and recognizing why I loved one... celebrating the musical heritage of the south.. over why I could not like the other.. which celebrates the cultural heritage.
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I do occasionally have a problem with liking music made by people whose views I find abhorrent. Being a hard rock fan, sometimes I have to struggle to get over the blatant sexism of the lyrics, but as a whole it doesn't prevent me from enjoying the music. However, Ted Nugent is a whole different ballgame. The guy is so repulsive that I would feel almost ashamed to like his music.
Anyway, it's interesting we are having this discussion when there is a thread about Lovecraft-inspired prog (or prog-related) somewhere else in the Forums. Lovecraft's views were even worse than Ted Nugent's (though he was a much smarter and better-educated person), but I still love reading his works, even if the racist rants they are peppered with make me cringe.
My 1st choice for submission is Squirrel Nut Zippers - "Hell".
I'll write a list of comments on most of the submissions made later today if anyone is interested.
Raff wrote:
BTW, Mike, I really dug that System of a Down song! That's a band I'd like to know more about.
Raff - Sorry I didn't see your comment on System of a Down earlier. If you have never really checked them out, then you are definitely in for a treat. While their music can be quite chaotic at times and has a lot of sarcasm to it, there are many thoughtful and more serious tracks. The band is very talented and are actually excellent songwriters. This is a band that I think a lot of frequent Archive visitors would love if they gave them a serious listen. I'm surprised there weren't more comments about them here.
^ Ted Nugent came to my mind too when seeing this topic, although I'm not a fan of his music, or him as a person as one would hopefully guess.
^^ Lewian, I have yet to read through this thread or check out many of the songs, but I will get around to it before too long. I don't want to be behind when the next topic starts -- that way will lead to total burn-out for me, and I know I have a topic to do at some time (I may be next in the queue).
If we are supposed to pick just one song, I will go with "Take On Me".
surprised you didn't go with Skynerd If one really thinks of it.. they sort of are the very definition of a guilty pleasure.. a band you are ashamed to like.. but are too damn good NOT to like.
I was thinking about related things yesterday, wrote quite a lot, but opted not to post my thoughts. Now I will.
I was wondering if some people's guilty pleasures would be songs or artists that represent values antithetical to their own, real or espoused. So, for instance, someone who is part of the Black Lives Matter protests but also likes southern confederate state supporting rock, or a Westboro Baptist Church member who loves Samwell's "What What (In the Butt)"; an Ultra Conservative Senator who espouses family values that loves "depraved" (according to what they espouse) porncore music, or an evangelical who secretly loves and sing along to Black Widow's "Come to the Sabbat" (Satan's there) -- I love that song but wouldn't have played it around my Born Again wife. Or someone who despises/is very ashamed about something about themselves, say a secret philia, but still listens to songs and watches videos that appeal to that philia. I for one am not ashamed of what I like -- well, I could be depending upon the person who would hear me listening to, reqading it, or watching it. I was fascinated by True Crime, and felt some revulsion in the fascination. That doesn;t mean I support or like the crime, it's more the psychological and forensics angle. I don't like hearing about the gory details, and have cried when hearing certian things. I do get embarrassed more than I would like. I consider myself to be a liberal, secular humanist, but enjoy music by artists that espouse a very different worldview. I abhor murder and murderers, but I still enjoy murder mysteries, am, as said, interested in true crime, and have albums by convicted murderers -- Bobby Beausoleil, a convicted murderer linked to the Manson family made one of my favourite albums, a soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's Lucifer Rising, Jimmy Page also made one, but he had a falling out with Anger. I enjoy various nasheeds even though certain Jihadists play them for inspiration. I thought about listing a nasheed.
I tried hard to think of something I was genuinely ashamed to like in music, but had problems thinking of those. I'm hardly shameless and do have secrets even if they aren't really very dark, and I would be willing to share those with various people. If I dug deeper in myself, I expect that I could list something that is a true guilty pleasure, but I don't know how deep into my psyche I'd want to go, or maybe I'm ultimately a very shallow person, which in itself would be a disheartening prospect -- like I looked deep into myself and found nothing there.
Actually, there is music I could post that while I don't feel guilty about liking it, I would feel uncomfortable posting it. Nothing that bad for me, but others may be offended, and I don;t like causing offence even if I often do. Well, more correctly, sometimes I have enjoyed shocking and being offensive, but then I feel guilty about it afterwards, and sometimes I don't mean offense and try to be tactful but it offends others.
My earlier Subway to Sally entry candidate was to some extent of that kind. Not sure if you saw my discussion of it. I do have issues with what I perceive at least in some way as glorification of violence in that song even if meant just symbolically, maybe erotically. (They have other songs where a very similar kind of stuff is going on... and I've got to say I like their music really a lot, at least some 4-5 mid-period albums. And their lyrics cut... can't even say I don't like the lyrics, I have trouble with them.)
If we are supposed to pick just one song, I will go with "Take On Me".
surprised you didn't go with Skynerd If one really thinks of it.. they sort of are the very definition of a guilty pleasure.. a band you are ashamed to like.. but are too damn good NOT to like.
I was thinking about related things yesterday, wrote quite a lot, but opted not to post my thoughts. Now I will.
I was wondering if some people's guilty pleasures would be songs or artists that represent values antithetical to their own, real or espoused. So, for instance, someone who is part of the Black Lives Matter protests but also likes southern confederate state supporting rock, or a Westboro Baptist Church member who loves Samwell's "What What (In the Butt)"; an Ultra Conservative Senator who espouses family values that loves "depraved" (according to what they espouse) porncore music, or an evangelical who secretly loves and sing along to Black Widow's "Come to the Sabbat" (Satan's there) -- I love that song but wouldn't have played it around my Born Again wife. Or someone who despises/is very ashamed about something about themselves, say a secret philia, but still listens to songs and watches videos that appeal to that philia. I for one am not ashamed of what I like -- well, I could be depending upon the person who would hear me listening to, reqading it, or watching it. I was fascinated by True Crime, and felt some revulsion in the fascination. That doesn;t mean I support or like the crime, it's more the psychological and forensics angle. I don't like hearing about the gory details, and have cried when hearing certian things. I do get embarrassed more than I would like. I consider myself to be a liberal, secular humanist, but enjoy music by artists that espouse a very different worldview. I abhor murder and murderers, but I still enjoy murder mysteries, am, as said, interested in true crime, and have albums by convicted murderers -- Bobby Beausoleil, a convicted murderer linked to the Manson family made one of my favourite albums, a soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's Lucifer Rising, Jimmy Page also made one, but he had a falling out with Anger. I enjoy various nasheeds even though certain Jihadists play them for inspiration. I thought about listing a nasheed.
I tried hard to think of something I was genuinely ashamed to like in music, but had problems thinking of those. I'm hardly shameless and do have secrets even if they aren't really very dark, and I would be willing to share those with various people. If I dug deeper in myself, I expect that I could list something that is a true guilty pleasure, but I don't know how deep into my psyche I'd want to go, or maybe I'm ultimately a very shallow person, which in itself would be a disheartening prospect -- like I looked deep into myself and found nothing there.
Actually, there is music I could post that while I don't feel guilty about liking it, I would feel uncomfortable posting it. Nothing that bad for me, but others may be offended, and I don;t like causing offence even if I often do. Well, more correctly, sometimes I have enjoyed shocking and being offensive, but then I feel guilty about it afterwards, and sometimes I don't mean offense and try to be tactful but it offends others.
I have had a little bit of trouble enjoying music of people who are completely antithetical to my views, I have to admit. Like Ted Nugent (there are others, but he comes to mind first and foremost when I consider this). And I'm not gonna change that prejudice in myself. I also have met a lot of musical household names, some of whose music I didn't care that much for, but the people are engaging and caring kinds of people, so I have grown to love some of their music, for their real personalities being in it, opposite of Ted's personality.
My late husband also was completely addicted to Law and Order, we have every episode on DVD. And also Criminal Minds (as far as addicted to watching, although that sometimes was too heavy for him, especially later on in the show). So I understand that the fascination doesn't mean one wishes to become one of the bad guys.
Nugent is another... hmmm.. perhaps I might change again. He is not someone I should admit to loving.. but ..well.... how can you resist
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
If we are supposed to pick just one song, I will go with "Take On Me".
surprised you didn't go with Skynerd If one really thinks of it.. they sort of are the very definition of a guilty pleasure.. a band you are ashamed to like.. but are too damn good NOT to like.
I was thinking about related things yesterday, wrote quite a lot, but opted not to post my thoughts. Now I will.
I was wondering if some people's guilty pleasures would be songs or artists that represent values antithetical to their own, real or espoused. So, for instance, someone who is part of the Black Lives Matter protests but also likes southern confederate state supporting rock, or a Westboro Baptist Church member who loves Samwell's "What What (In the Butt)"; an Ultra Conservative Senator who espouses family values that loves "depraved" (according to what they espouse) porncore music, or an evangelical who secretly loves and sing along to Black Widow's "Come to the Sabbat" (Satan's there) -- I love that song but wouldn't have played it around my Born Again wife. Or someone who despises/is very ashamed about something about themselves, say a secret philia, but still listens to songs and watches videos that appeal to that philia. I for one am not ashamed of what I like -- well, I could be depending upon the person who would hear me listening to, reqading it, or watching it. I was fascinated by True Crime, and felt some revulsion in the fascination. That doesn;t mean I support or like the crime, it's more the psychological and forensics angle. I don't like hearing about the gory details, and have cried when hearing certian things. I do get embarrassed more than I would like. I consider myself to be a liberal, secular humanist, but enjoy music by artists that espouse a very different worldview. I abhor murder and murderers, but I still enjoy murder mysteries, am, as said, interested in true crime, and have albums by convicted murderers -- Bobby Beausoleil, a convicted murderer linked to the Manson family made one of my favourite albums, a soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's Lucifer Rising, Jimmy Page also made one, but he had a falling out with Anger. I enjoy various nasheeds even though certain Jihadists play them for inspiration. I thought about listing a nasheed.
I tried hard to think of something I was genuinely ashamed to like in music, but had problems thinking of those. I'm hardly shameless and do have secrets even if they aren't really very dark, and I would be willing to share those with various people. If I dug deeper in myself, I expect that I could list something that is a true guilty pleasure, but I don't know how deep into my psyche I'd want to go, or maybe I'm ultimately a very shallow person, which in itself would be a disheartening prospect -- like I looked deep into myself and found nothing there.
Actually, there is music I could post that while I don't feel guilty about liking it, I would feel uncomfortable posting it. Nothing that bad for me, but others may be offended, and I don;t like causing offence even if I often do. Well, more correctly, sometimes I have enjoyed shocking and being offensive, but then I feel guilty about it afterwards, and sometimes I don't mean offense and try to be tactful but it offends others.
I have had a little bit of trouble enjoying music of people who are completely antithetical to my views, I have to admit. Like Ted Nugent (there are others, but he comes to mind first and foremost when I consider this). And I'm not gonna change that prejudice in myself. I also have met a lot of musical household names, some of whose music I didn't care that much for, but the people are engaging and caring kinds of people, so I have grown to love some of their music, for their real personalities being in it, opposite of Ted's personality.
My late husband also was completely addicted to Law and Order, we have every episode on DVD. And also Criminal Minds (as far as addicted to watching, although that sometimes was too heavy for him, especially later on in the show). So I understand that the fascination doesn't mean one wishes to become one of the bad guys.
"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Now again, blushing....That's really kind of you, thank you. I'm just a person with too much time on her hands and a smart mouth (or keyboard) at times. These have been very diverting for me and a lot of fun getting to know everyone here better and how their tastes run, musically, all over the map.
almost missed this..
very much like me I suspect .. perhaps why I have felt a real connection (many shared musical taste aside) with you. Prog only brought me to the forum.. and quite frankly is only something I like.. but not my real musical love. However it has the people I have met here.. virtually and more importantly.. in real life.. that keep me coming back. It really is a great place for just shooting the sh*t and enjoying everyone's company and their perspectives on everything.. from music to the real life. Most here do not open themselves up at all.. some do to some degree.. others have no problem opening themselves up. Warts and all.
Another reason why I love these polls.. it is as much the feedbacks.. the little glimmers of what you all let out about yourselves that I really enjoy ... as I do the actual music itself.
For me, it is one of many musical loves. I'm terribly loyal as a human partner, but promiscuous when it comes to music and books. I like the personal glimpses, was hesitant to make many before, afraid of being like some kind of Forrest Gump (being kind of an accidental(?) insider to a lot of things). So yes, it's been really a heckuva a lot of fun. You and Raff were some of the first to welcome me to the forums, so I've always appreciated that and the getting to "know" the two of you.
"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
Meltdowner ~ lena d’Agua & atlantida Reminds me of
Nena, poppy and upbeat, but in a kind of quirky way. I could see this becoming an earworm. Let’s see if it does in the next couple of
days here.
Never though about it but I can see the similarities, besides the name. I picked this one out of a different embarrassment, her concert was one of the last I saw and I was from a completely different demographic (it was mostly women in their late 50's/60's), that I was standing out too much in the audience
By the way (out of competition), the B-side from that single is quite proggy. The composer listened to VdGG for sure:
Interesting, came out in the 80's also....in the beginning she still reminded me of Nena, but when the changeup came, definitely more proggy than Nena.
"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
If we are supposed to pick just one song, I will go with "Take On Me".
surprised you didn't go with Skynerd If one really thinks of it.. they sort of are the very definition of a guilty pleasure.. a band you are ashamed to like.. but are too damn good NOT to like.
I was thinking about related things yesterday, wrote quite a lot, but opted not to post my thoughts. Now I will.
I was wondering if some people's guilty pleasures would be songs or artists that represent values antithetical to their own, real or espoused. So, for instance, someone who is part of the Black Lives Matter protests but also likes southern confederate state supporting rock, or a Westboro Baptist Church member who loves Samwell's "What What (In the Butt)"; an Ultra Conservative Senator who espouses family values that loves "depraved" (according to what they espouse) porncore music, or an evangelical who secretly loves and sing along to Black Widow's "Come to the Sabbat" (Satan's there) -- I love that song but wouldn't have played it around my Born Again wife. Or someone who despises/is very ashamed about something about themselves, say a secret philia, but still listens to songs and watches videos that appeal to that philia. I for one am not ashamed of what I like -- well, I could be depending upon the person who would hear me listening to, reqading it, or watching it. I was fascinated by True Crime, and felt some revulsion in the fascination. That doesn;t mean I support or like the crime, it's more the psychological and forensics angle. I don't like hearing about the gory details, and have cried when hearing certian things. I do get embarrassed more than I would like. I consider myself to be a liberal, secular humanist, but enjoy music by artists that espouse a very different worldview. I abhor murder and murderers, but I still enjoy murder mysteries, am, as said, interested in true crime, and have albums by convicted murderers -- Bobby Beausoleil, a convicted murderer linked to the Manson family made one of my favourite albums, a soundtrack for Kenneth Anger's Lucifer Rising, Jimmy Page also made one, but he had a falling out with Anger. I enjoy various nasheeds even though certain Jihadists play them for inspiration. I thought about listing a nasheed.
I tried hard to think of something I was genuinely ashamed to like in music, but had problems thinking of those. I'm hardly shameless and do have secrets even if they aren't really very dark, and I would be willing to share those with various people. If I dug deeper in myself, I expect that I could list something that is a true guilty pleasure, but I don't know how deep into my psyche I'd want to go, or maybe I'm ultimately a very shallow person, which in itself would be a disheartening prospect -- like I looked deep into myself and found nothing there.
Actually, there is music I could post that while I don't feel guilty about liking it, I would feel uncomfortable posting it. Nothing that bad for me, but others may be offended, and I don;t like causing offence even if I often do. Well, more correctly, sometimes I have enjoyed shocking and being offensive, but then I feel guilty about it afterwards, and sometimes I don't mean offense and try to be tactful but it offends others.
@Nickie, what a great collection of thoughts and observations. I am enjoying your comments here and throughout as well.
amen to that... impressive.
hey.. don't you all think it is about time someone step up and give out some forum love to Nickie and make her one of those forum VIP's ... she's more than earned it by gracing us with her presence on the forum!
admins?? make it so..
Now again, blushing....That's really kind of you, thank you. I'm just a person with too much time on her hands and a smart mouth (or keyboard) at times. These have been very diverting for me and a lot of fun getting to know everyone here better and how their tastes run, musically, all over the map.
almost missed this..
very much like me I suspect .. perhaps why I have felt a real connection (many shared musical taste aside) with you. Prog only brought me to the forum.. and quite frankly is only something I like.. but not my real musical love. However it has the people I have met here.. virtually and more importantly.. in real life.. that keep me coming back. It really is a great place for just shooting the sh*t and enjoying everyone's company and their perspectives on everything.. from music to the real life. Most here do not open themselves up at all.. some do to some degree.. others have no problem opening themselves up. Warts and all.
Another reason why I love these polls.. it is as much the feedbacks.. the little glimmers of what you all let out about yourselves that I really enjoy ... as I do the actual music itself.
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Meltdowner ~ lena d’Agua & atlantida Reminds me of
Nena, poppy and upbeat, but in a kind of quirky way. I could see this becoming an earworm. Let’s see if it does in the next couple of
days here.
Never though about it but I can see the similarities, besides the name. I picked this one out of a different embarrassment, her concert was one of the last I saw and I was from a completely different demographic (it was mostly women in their late 50's/60's), that I was standing out too much in the audience
By the way (out of competition), the B-side from that single is quite proggy. The composer listened to VdGG for sure:
^ yeah but I was likely one Raffrandom Youtube clip away from going with the Wiggles man..
unlike our dear John.. I care nothing for getting your votes.. much less wining. In fact getting bageled might be a badge of honor in this poll.
Vogue is indded great.. got to be a fool or a living in mama's basement progger to not see it.. but Ray of LIght gets lost in the shuffle of her acknowledged greatness.... is my guilty pleasure from her and you reinforced man with the comment. So here.. have a 2nd of the morning McToaatie
Edited by micky - July 03 2020 at 09:42
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Think about Madonna whatever you want, when she is good she creates some serious heat. (Unfortunately for attracting my vote, the one on the previous page would have been so much better than the one you nominated. Wow!)
it says a lot that on one here has managed to even consider either of the other 2 Fatals for Mick.. songs I absolutely DETEST.. that aren't guilty pleasures.. for though there is pleasure to be found in being chained up and whipped by a 6 foot German blond with killer managed English.. there is not pleasure in being chained up and whiipped by some dude with a southern accent repeating over and over
'I bet you can squeal like a pig! WEEEEEEE!!!!'
Pour Some Sugar on Me
Come on Eileen
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
If we are supposed to pick just one song, I will go with "Take On Me".
surprised you didn't go with Skynerd If one really thinks of it.. they sort of are the very definition of a guilty pleasure.. a band you are ashamed to like.. but are too damn good NOT to like.
I'm trying to win here Momma didn't raise no loser. (skynerdese)
well you lost my vote
you happened to pick one of the fatal 3 songs I absolutely HATE..are like hearing nails on a chalkboard.... and will drop whatever I am doing and immediately change the station..
This is one of the reasons I am doing 3 different "types," for my Top 3...For the option of voting for "most painful!"
"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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