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CCVP 
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Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
 Topic: Stewart or Beck?Posted: June 01 2011 at 18:55 |
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Stewart is unfunny, Beck is a threat to the American public opinion.
My vote goes to the less dangerous one. |
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Garden of Dreams
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Joined: April 26 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 336 |
Posted: June 01 2011 at 16:09 |
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You can never trust the head of Richard Nixon. He might come into your house at night and wreck up the place. Anyway, Stewart, Colbert, and Ferguson are all great in their own rights. Colbert has some of the best satire on T.V. (the best being the Onion News Network), Stewart has amazing correspondents and Ferguson has Geoff Peterson and Secretariat.
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cannon
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Posted: May 29 2011 at 11:26 |
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Ferguson has had me rolling on the floor sometimes.
 Beck is a lunatic.
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Icarium
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Posted: May 29 2011 at 10:54 |
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George Stroumboulopolos beets them both though but yeah Stewart and Colbert are really awesome hosts,
but Craig Ferguson is the funnyest host and one of the funnyest hosts ever,
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Earendil
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Posted: May 29 2011 at 10:09 |
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Stewart is too liberal for me, and Glenn Beck is too idiotic. I prefer Colbert by far.
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: April 28 2011 at 08:56 |
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When did I say anything to the contrary? I don't recall defending Republicans once. In fact, I believe I've blasted "left", "right", and "centrist" alike on this thread.
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The T
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Posted: April 28 2011 at 00:52 |
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Posted: April 28 2011 at 00:48 |
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Long live Stewart and Colbert.
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stonebeard
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 23:55 |
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ITT: a whole lotta derp
I demand a Top 5 Comedians list from MoM anon to guess whether his funny is broken. |
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The T
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 23:43 |
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Come on HP Mom is like that, a little difficult to deal with
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 23:41 |
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It was a more delicate way of putting that I'm tired of trying to seriously engage Mom and won't be responding to his posts about politics anymore.
I am doing the people's work.
I agree with this. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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The T
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 23:05 |
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 Anyway, HP, you've finally proved in the SR that you are actually a fascist.  Again, even now that my beliefs are so different than in the past, democrats might be leftier than republicans but they aren't the leftiest it can get (though I believe is more of a matter of political maneuvering than actual centrism). Republicans also aren't really a different extreme. Come one Mom or Llama, republicans are the same sh*t with sometimes saner economic ideas but they are still power-hungry politicians wanting the government to play their game, not really wanting the government to stop playing any games. Republicans, as democrats, are so government-dependent that this whole Stewart-Beck thing is really a confrontation of interests being defended. The difference might be that there are a few republicans that still believe in true old liberalism (the laissez faire kind, the "government get the f**k out of our lives" kind) or even libertarianism. I'm not sure we could find a democrat interested in government backing down though... Mom, the opposite of total government is not less government, but NO government, I'd say.
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manofmystery
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 22:52 |
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Man, your joke posts really are funny
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 19:08 |
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This is why I only make joke posts in the libertarian thread. You can keep doing whatever it is you're doing here, but I'm not going to waste any more of my time with it.
I don't think I need to explain why your last sentence is silly, but I do agree that the moderation is to extent wanting to get his agenda, since the Republicans would probably have to cave on more than the Democrats would to get to the "center". But that doesn't mean his presentation is not centrist. |
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thellama73
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 18:00 |
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What annoys me is Stewarts "why can't we all just get along?"routine. We can't all just get along because we have deply held beliefs that differ wildly on what is best for ourselves and our country. It seems to me that what he really wants is for us to roll over and let his side do whatever they want, all in the name of "civility." If keeping the peace is so important, why doesn't his team give in on everything the Republicans want?
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manofmystery
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 17:09 |
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I find the source for those numbers laughable, not that it matters. I'm just going to say that every union employee in the surrounding states was ordered to take the day off to attend, just to upset you. My news agency put a lot of research into that statement though, so don't dare question it.
Jon Stewart is a shill for his side and the attempts he makes to appear "centrist" by throwing in the occasional softball democrat joke are the most laughable part of his program. The democrat jokes are an intellectually insulting attempt to fool the feeble minded into believing he holds "moderate" beliefs. Conan O'Brien's monologue everynight is the same way but at least Conan isn't trying to make himself part of the political scene.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 16:08 |
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T, I think centrist as a label is more useful as the middle of the two poles most people find acceptable rather than the exact 50% between complete totalitarianism and anarchy.
If you honestly think The Daily Show presents an extreme leftist viewpoint, you have no idea what he is actually saying (probably because you don't watch the show because you don't find him funny). You should know what you're talking about before you get outraged. And if you have been watching his show for whatever reason and still think that then your grasp on reality is even more tenuous than I thought. I keep bringing up the rally because the little speech at the end and what he said leading up to it is culmination of his moderate/centrist presentation. And not that it matters at all to our discussion, but your numbers on Jon/Glenn Beck are inverted.
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The T
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 14:20 |
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Negoba
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Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: April 27 2011 at 09:01 |
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As others have pointed out, neither Beck nor Stewart are at either extreme. That's an illusion fed to us all to distract us from real issues.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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manofmystery
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Posted: April 27 2011 at 08:55 |
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Working from bottom to top:
Because he isn't. Jon Stewart is at one of the two extremes. He's decided who he wants to bend over for and uses what influence moronic college students/professors grant him to try and get them to make the same decision. Stewart is far more dispicable than Beck because he tries to hind his motives behind his pseudo-comedy.
I've been talking about how labels are incorrectly used. It doesn't help to further muddy the waters with unnecissary comparisons to countries with different systems.
Not sure why you keep bringing up that rally. Beck had about 3-4 times as many people at his just weeks before Stewart's. So what
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