Will pick up Desire, thanks!  I've explored their music a bit over the years -- knew them before I joined PA.  The university radio station would play a lot of quirky music.  Pretty diverse musically.

They were absorbing musical ideas from academic music composers, of course -- Bartok, Stravinsky, avant-garde composers, minimalists, avant-garde comspoers etc.

I haven't heard Ghost Sonata yet (oh wait, I have).  I find Divine hugely reminiscent of 80s Art Zoyd (who was also doing modern ballet music at much the same time).  It like Ghost Sonata also reminds me of the Residents Eskimo (My favourite Residents album).  To me that is not Prog Related, it is very much of an 80s RIO style.

Some great chamber music in Ghost Sonata:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_oKOLE8Qh0&list=PL8CD91F1C3A79D4D1

For those that know them better than me, there is some serious academic music going on.  Compositions and arrangements are very advanced.  I need to know more about these guys.  Is there much post-punk at this level?




Edited by Logan - December 17 2013 at 16:45

Prog Related is a very difficult category to get into due to the criteria needed.

I actually would put Tuxedomoon in the RIO/Avant category for the very RIO album Divine in particular, which is brilliant (I wonder if that album was evaluated)




The whole album is on youtube if one looks. 

EDIT: here is the playlist on youtube, and I would strongly recommend it to fans of RIO: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL70D68F46130BC908



Edited by Logan - December 17 2013 at 16:24

Not as simple as you might think. Firstly a Special Collaborator (5 stars above his avatar) has to propose them to admins, and then admins have to approve them and add them. On a positive note there are several S.C.s posting in this thread who support their addition, and might be willing to propose them for Prog Related. On a more negative note (and far more significantly, Im afraid) two of the current members of the admin team have said in this thread that they don't belong here, so I would imagine this idea is already dead in the water, despite nobody in the old ZART team that initially evaluated them having actually voted for rejection:

Edited by yam yam - December 14 2013 at 11:13

Not sure they're really fit for ZART. They remind me of a few of the experimental/avant rock and post punk bands that were suggested in the past year or so - experimental for sure, but not exactly fit for the site.

Dean wrote: Really? Suggestions threads don't canvas inclusion and non-exclusion opinion -just because a few people has said the might fit here that doesn't mean a whole lot. Six members of the ZART team, including the person who originally championed them voted Prog Related yet none of them proposed Tuxedomoon to the AdminTeam for PR.   I don't think they belong here at all.

I was just about to post a Tuxedo Mask picture. He's so dreamy

Really? Suggestions threads don't canvas inclusion and non-exclusion opinion -just because a few people has said the might fit here that doesn't mean a whole lot. Six members of the ZART team, including the person who originally championed them voted Prog Related yet none of them proposed Tuxedomoon to the AdminTeam for PR.

Logan wrote: I haven't listened to much Tuxedomoon, but it has similarities to The Residents.

octopus-4 wrote: WalterDigsTunes wrote: clarke2001 wrote: Tuxedomoon should be here, as well as Red Krayola. Absolutely. We need more post-punk here. You can't have "progressive" without the last forward-looking genre in the history of music. Red Krayola "post punk"?

Let's say "Proto-pre-post punk".

clarke2001 wrote: Tuxedomoon should be here, as well as Red Krayola.

Absolutely. We need more post-punk here. You can't have "progressive" without the last forward-looking genre in the history of music.