| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
Syzygy 
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: December 16 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7003
|
 Topic: Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures VS Sheik Yerbouti
Posted: February 01 2010 at 17:08 |
|
I actually like Sheik Yerbouti - Adrian Belew, Ed Mann and Terry Bozzio all turn in excellent performances, there are 3 killer FZ live guitar solos and some of the best vocal harmonies FZ ever recorded. Some of the humour wears a bit thin, but overall it's one of Zappa's best efforts IMO. Zoot Allures is much patchier, although it certainly has its moments as others have pointed out. Sheik Yerbouti it is!
|
|
'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
|
 |
Nightfly
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: August 01 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 3659
|
Posted: February 01 2010 at 09:38 |
|
I've always had a soft spot for Zoot Allures. I bought it in 1976 and it was the first Zappa album I owned, Of course he's done much better but the instrumental tracks are all great and Disco Boy is fun. City Of Tiny Lites is probably my favourite track between the 2 albums but overall i find Sheik Yerbouti patchy.
Edited by Nightfly - February 01 2010 at 09:40
|
|
Bonnek
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: September 01 2009
Location: Belgium
Status: Offline
Points: 4521
|
Posted: February 01 2010 at 09:18 |
|
A vote for Zoot from someone who has only heard Zoot.
So why did I vote? Because it was the first Zappa album that struck a chord with me so it deserves an honorable mention.
I'm now working my way down through his discography. That will be a big part of my 2010 fun I guess.
|
|
Iron Nate
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 30 2009
Location: Down Under
Status: Offline
Points: 159
|
Posted: February 01 2010 at 02:33 |
|
Sheik Yerbouti. Though I could nearly vote Zoot Allures just for Black Napkins.
|
|
HolyMoly
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: April 01 2009
Location: Atlanta
Status: Offline
Points: 26138
|
Posted: November 04 2009 at 15:50 |
|
Sheik Yerbouti - it's got more meat on it.
|
|
My other avatar is a Porsche
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased.
-Kehlog Albran
|
|
llamalime
Forum Groupie
Joined: May 18 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 42
|
Posted: November 04 2009 at 12:54 |
|
Both are essential, but I think that Sheik has blown a few more minds.
|
|
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." -Frank Zappa
|
|
Slartibartfast
Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam
Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29630
|
Posted: October 27 2009 at 12:27 |
Sheik for the sake of the profanity. 
|
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
|
|
SonicDeath10
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 06 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 282
|
Posted: October 26 2009 at 21:30 |
|
I like both albums. Zoot Allures is fun because it's close to a "two man" effort between Frank and Terry Ted. However, I think that the songs sound better live than they did on the album. Sheik was my first, and I think it's incredible. So, it's that one. I like Zappa when he tries a little harder (see Lather) but the guy was an exceptional songwriter and wrote great rock songs.
|
|
"Good evening hippies." Bobby Boy
|
|
Tsevir Leirbag
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 03 2009
Location: Montréal
Status: Offline
Points: 8321
|
Posted: October 26 2009 at 19:10 |
|
Sheik.... A mile over Zoot
|
|
Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
|
|
Bitterblogger
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 04 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1719
|
Posted: October 26 2009 at 18:37 |
|
I laugh more with Sheik. And I think the title is cleverer.
|
|
Alberto Muñoz
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 26 2006
Location: Mexico
Status: Offline
Points: 3577
|
Posted: October 26 2009 at 18:31 |
|
|
|
|
|
The Quiet One
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 15745
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 15:18 |
 BaldJean wrote:
"Sheik Yerbouti" is one of the most boring Zappa albums. "Zoot Allures" certainly is not one of his best efforts either, but it has good instrumentals like "Black Napkins". but the highlight of the album is "The Torture Never Stops". believe it or not, that song is one of my Zappa favorites. so my vote goes to "Zoot Allures"
|
Pretty much my thoughts  Though would also add the title track(Zoot Allures) being one of the highlights from the album.
|
|
BaldJean
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 10387
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 15:15 |
|
"Sheik Yerbouti" is one of the most boring Zappa albums. "Zoot Allures" certainly is not one of his best efforts either, but it has good instrumentals like "Black Napkins". but the highlight of the album is "The Torture Never Stops". believe it or not, that song is one of my Zappa favorites. so my vote goes to "Zoot Allures"
|
 A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
|
|
jammun
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 14 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3449
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 14:51 |
Zoot has its moments (many of them), but Sheik is awesome FZ. So many excellent songs, I'd list them one by one, but that'd be redundant, since the track listing is available on the site here.
|
|
Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
|
|
proggy
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 27 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 590
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 11:38 |
|
Love Both.....Sheik by a hair.....
|
|
Anderson III
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 25 2007
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 708
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 10:13 |
|
I prefer Sheik. I actually think The Torture Never Stops is one of the worst tracks from FZ's catalogue. Never understood why it was such a favorite live.
|
|
"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
|
|
Zargus
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 08 2005
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 3491
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 09:43 |
|
Zoot Allures, i heavent heard it but it must be beter then the terrible Sheik...
|
|
|
|
Bj-1
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 04 2005
Location: No(r)Way
Status: Offline
Points: 31619
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 09:08 |
|
Sheik Yerbouti, although Zoot is a very good album as well.
|
|
RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
|
|
questionsneverknown
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 22 2009
Location: Ultima Thule
Status: Offline
Points: 602
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 06:52 |
|
Ugh, certainly a tough one. Like others here, I don't find these albums to be bad but hardly favorites at all. I'm voting for Sheik though if I'm honest with myself I probably listen to Zoot the more often of the two.
|
|
LiquidEternity
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 07 2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 900
|
Posted: October 25 2009 at 02:56 |
|
The Zoot version of The Torture Never Stops has that horrific, obnoxious screaming thing all throughout it. I much prefer it sans wailing.
|
|
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures VS Sheik Yerbouti
