Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures VS Sheik Yerbouti
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Topic: Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures VS Sheik Yerbouti
Posted By: The Quiet One
Subject: Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures VS Sheik Yerbouti
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 20:31
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 20:37
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These albums are kind of at the bottom of my FZ list. Zoot Allures has about two essential instrumentals, a decent instrumental and a fun dumb rock song (Wind Up Working at a Gas Station). The rest is a throwaway effort. Sheik Yerbouti is consistent, but its rarely amazing. It does have Bobby Brown Goes Down, though. And it was the first FZ I ever bought. Sheik Yerbouti it is. |
Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 20:43
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Sheik Yerbuti it's quite a strong record . I didn't expect it to be that good. Musimundo offered 7 of Zappa's strongest albums so far , I hope they release some more in the future.
On the other hand Zoot Allures I find it to be pretty inconsistent : Great guitar playing among some filler.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 20:43
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Sheik by a fair margin. Though Wind Up Working...is one of my favorite FZ songs. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 20:51
The reason I chose both And I agree about Zoot Allures, Black Napkins and the title track are killer instrumental stuff, Friendly Little Finger and The Torture Never Stops are really good, but the rest are mediocre throwaways. However I do not find Sheik Yerbouti to be enjoyable in the least, with the exception of City of Tiny Lites and the outstanding Yo' Mama, the rest is forgettable and even annoying. Zoot Allures it is. |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 24 2009 at 23:53
I'm going to have to go with Zoot Allures, but neither is that high up there. Make a Jazz Noise Here and Zappa in New York have way better versions of Black Napkins and The Torture Never Stops (respectively), and those are the two best off Zoot. Sheik Yerbouti has some good ones, but it also has way too much crap to really keep me entertained the whole way through. Both are three star albums, in my opinion. I think. I might be confused. 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 00:00
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I agree that Make A Jazz Noise Here has a great version of Black Napkins, but from The Torture Never Stops I prefer the simpler but more solid studio version to Zappa in New York's version. |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 00:05
How I hate that interminable song! |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 00:10
It was the first song by Zappa that totally grabbed me, that was 2 years ago I presume. |
Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 02:56
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The Zoot version of The Torture Never Stops has that horrific, obnoxious screaming thing all throughout it. I much prefer it sans wailing.
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Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 06:52
| Ugh, certainly a tough one. Like others here, I don't find these albums to be bad but hardly favorites at all. I'm voting for Sheik though if I'm honest with myself I probably listen to Zoot the more often of the two. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 09:08
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Sheik Yerbouti, although Zoot is a very good album as well. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 09:43
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Zoot Allures, i heavent heard it but it must be beter then the terrible Sheik... ------------- 
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Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 10:13
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I prefer Sheik. I actually think The Torture Never Stops is one of the worst tracks from FZ's catalogue. Never understood why it was such a favorite live.
------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 11:38
| Love Both.....Sheik by a hair..... |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 14:51
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Zoot has its moments (many of them), but Sheik is awesome FZ. So many excellent songs, I'd list them one by one, but that'd be redundant, since the track listing is available on the site here. ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 15:15
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"Sheik Yerbouti" is one of the most boring Zappa albums. "Zoot Allures" certainly is not one of his best efforts either, but it has good instrumentals like "Black Napkins". but the highlight of the album is "The Torture Never Stops". believe it or not, that song is one of my Zappa favorites. so my vote goes to "Zoot Allures" -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 25 2009 at 15:18
Pretty much my thoughts |
Though would also add the title track(Zoot Allures) being one of the highlights from the album.Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 18:31
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Pablo:
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 18:37
| I laugh more with Sheik. And I think the title is cleverer. |
Posted By: Tsevir Leirbag
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 19:10
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Sheik.... A mile over Zoot ------------- Les mains, les pieds balancés Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
Posted By: SonicDeath10
Date Posted: October 26 2009 at 21:30
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I like both albums. Zoot Allures is fun because it's close to a "two man" effort between Frank and Terry Ted. However, I think that the songs sound better live than they did on the album. Sheik was my first, and I think it's incredible. So, it's that one. I like Zappa when he tries a little harder (see Lather) but the guy was an exceptional songwriter and wrote great rock songs. ------------- "Good evening hippies." Bobby Boy |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 27 2009 at 12:27
Sheik for the sake of the profanity. 
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Posted By: llamalime
Date Posted: November 04 2009 at 12:54
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Both are essential, but I think that Sheik has blown a few more minds.
------------- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." -Frank Zappa |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 04 2009 at 15:50
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Sheik Yerbouti - it's got more meat on it. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Iron Nate
Date Posted: February 01 2010 at 02:33
| Sheik Yerbouti. Though I could nearly vote Zoot Allures just for Black Napkins. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: February 01 2010 at 09:18
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A vote for Zoot from someone who has only heard Zoot. So why did I vote? Because it was the first Zappa album that struck a chord with me so it deserves an honorable mention. I'm now working my way down through his discography. That will be a big part of my 2010 fun I guess. |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: February 01 2010 at 09:38
| I've always had a soft spot for Zoot Allures. I bought it in 1976 and it was the first Zappa album I owned, Of course he's done much better but the instrumental tracks are all great and Disco Boy is fun. City Of Tiny Lites is probably my favourite track between the 2 albums but overall i find Sheik Yerbouti patchy. |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 01 2010 at 17:08
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I actually like Sheik Yerbouti - Adrian Belew, Ed Mann and Terry Bozzio all turn in excellent performances, there are 3 killer FZ live guitar solos and some of the best vocal harmonies FZ ever recorded. Some of the humour wears a bit thin, but overall it's one of Zappa's best efforts IMO. Zoot Allures is much patchier, although it certainly has its moments as others have pointed out. Sheik Yerbouti it is! ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |