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    Posted: January 02 2010 at 14:01
Originally posted by Windhawk Windhawk wrote:

Bryan Adams didn't even make it into the charts. Comparing him with Wesley is like comparing Pendragon with Dokken - both arguably belonging in a similar musical territory, but with substantial differences in terms of compositional structures, elements and effects utilized as well as general level of sophistication ;-)
 
I agree, Bryan Adams is more original.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2010 at 04:33
Bryan Adams didn't even make it into the charts. Comparing him with Wesley is like comparing Pendragon with Dokken - both arguably belonging in a similar musical territory, but with substantial differences in terms of compositional structures, elements and effects utilized as well as general level of sophistication ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2010 at 04:20
Well, I guess that makes it alright, then. Can't wait for you feedback on Bryan Adams.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 07:10
Wesley's addition to Crossover was cleared by a majority vote of two Admins and a SC on the Crossover Team.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 06:56
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I'm sorry, I've heard all his solo stuff more than once, and apart maybe from Shiver, I can't tell what makes him that different from Bryan Adams, who he constantly reminds of - hey, let's had HIM to Crossover instead. Seriously, I like John's solo stuff, it's nice and pretty pop, but if you want to keep him here, move him to Prog-Related. Personaly, I don't even think his conections merit inclusion in PA (it's quite clear to me that his music alone doesn't cut it).
As Marty said, he was already approved by the crossover team. If you want to make a thread to put him in prog related, feel free, but I can't see why it matters in the slightest which sub genre he's in. He's already here now, and caring about moving him to another genre is incredibly petty.


 
Wanting to improve the site by making it more accurate is being petty? Confused

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. Its just massively non-constructive in comparison to A LOT of other things one could be doing to help the site. Reviewing, adding albums/artists, writing bios., etc. Also, that accuracy is a matter of opinion. He was placed in Crossover by the crossover team; if the admins and genre teams thought he belonged in prog related, then he would've been put there.

 
I agree, and I've done plenty of that. As for the opinions, well, that's all they are - and I believe I'm entitled to have an opposite one, not in any way less valuable than the rest.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 06:15
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I'm sorry, I've heard all his solo stuff more than once, and apart maybe from Shiver, I can't tell what makes him that different from Bryan Adams, who he constantly reminds of - hey, let's had HIM to Crossover instead. Seriously, I like John's solo stuff, it's nice and pretty pop, but if you want to keep him here, move him to Prog-Related. Personaly, I don't even think his conections merit inclusion in PA (it's quite clear to me that his music alone doesn't cut it).
As Marty said, he was already approved by the crossover team. If you want to make a thread to put him in prog related, feel free, but I can't see why it matters in the slightest which sub genre he's in. He's already here now, and caring about moving him to another genre is incredibly petty.


 
Wanting to improve the site by making it more accurate is being petty? Confused

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. Its just massively non-constructive in comparison to A LOT of other things one could be doing to help the site. Reviewing, adding albums/artists, writing bios., etc. Also, that accuracy is a matter of opinion. He was placed in Crossover by the crossover team; if the admins and genre teams thought he belonged in prog related, then he would've been put there.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 06:03
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I'm sorry, I've heard all his solo stuff more than once, and apart maybe from Shiver, I can't tell what makes him that different from Bryan Adams, who he constantly reminds of - hey, let's had HIM to Crossover instead.

Seriously, I like John's solo stuff, it's nice and pretty pop, but if you want to keep him here, move him to Prog-Related. Personaly, I don't even think his conections merit inclusion in PA (it's quite clear to me that his music alone doesn't cut it).


As Marty said, he was already approved by the crossover team. If you want to make a thread to put him in prog related, feel free, but I can't see why it matters in the slightest which sub genre he's in. He's already here now, and caring about moving him to another genre is incredibly petty.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 05:55
Also, if you really feel he should be moved, why didn't you bring it up... Oh, I don't know, before he had been added to the site under crossover?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 05:39
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I'm sorry, I've heard all his solo stuff more than once, and apart maybe from Shiver, I can't tell what makes him that different from Bryan Adams, who he constantly reminds of - hey, let's had HIM to Crossover instead.

Seriously, I like John's solo stuff, it's nice and pretty pop, but if you want to keep him here, move him to Prog-Related. Personaly, I don't even think his conections merit inclusion in PA (it's quite clear to me that his music alone doesn't cut it).


As Marty said, he was already approved by the crossover team. If you want to make a thread to put him in prog related, feel free, but I can't see why it matters in the slightest which sub genre he's in. He's already here now, and caring about moving him to another genre is incredibly petty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 04:44
But he was approved by crossover team, so what was the reason ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 04:25
I'm sorry, I've heard all his solo stuff more than once, and apart maybe from Shiver, I can't tell what makes him that different from Bryan Adams, who he constantly reminds of - hey, let's had HIM to Crossover instead.
 
Seriously, I like John's solo stuff, it's nice and pretty pop, but if you want to keep him here, move him to Prog-Related. Personaly, I don't even think his conections merit inclusion in PA (it's quite clear to me that his music alone doesn't cut it).  
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2009 at 21:49
It's a fair point joel, no need to shout. ;-) Typically when a sample is included in a post, it's for the purpose of showing that the artist belongs here, not just so we can hear notes coming out of his guitar, so you can imagine why some of us would be surprised when it's that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2009 at 21:03
I thought it was good to have some material embedded into the OP, and that's the only solo song of his on YouTube.

How about you actually listen to an album by him before you judge his progressive credibility. Or fine, you can go and judge Genesis by Invisible Touch and judge Yes by Owner Of A Lonely Heart if you really want.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2009 at 20:53
how the hell was "Thanksgiving Day" a good example of  his alleged progginess? If Toby Keith wrote/sang that exact same song, it would have never been anywhere near ProgArchives
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 12:25
Oh, come on.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 05:59
Thanks a million Windhawk - I'll start reviewing over the next few days.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2009 at 02:51
Wesley have now been added to Crossover :-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2009 at 16:11
I will also do reviews for his works of good length.
 
Personally I think he would be better for Prog-Related over Crossover however...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2009 at 16:53
^^Probably a good idea to wait then



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2009 at 16:43
sure - if you've the time to waste - much better to prepare it after he's been approved then your time would not have been spent in vain if rejected.
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