John Wesley - Prog Related/Crossover?
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Topic: John Wesley - Prog Related/Crossover?
Posted By: progkidjoel
Subject: John Wesley - Prog Related/Crossover?
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 05:31
I'd like to suggest John Wesley (Singer/Songwriter/Guitarist) for Crossover/prog related.
Bio: John Wesley (born 1962) is an American singer, songwriter and guitarist. His career began in the early 80's, when he formed a band called Autodrive. A year after in 1984, John Wesley left Autodrive to pursue a solo career. He soon became the opening act for Marillion, playing for seven consecutive tour legs, mostly in The US, but also in select areas of Europe. In 1994, he released his first Solo album, "Under A Red And White Sky", to very little critical acclaim. One year later he released "The Closing Of The Pale Blue Eyes", which also received very little media attention. In 1997, he released another solo album called "The Emperor Falls", which featured Steve Hogarth (Marillion, 1988 - Present) as a guest vocalist. In 1998, he began touring as an opening act for Lynryd Skynyrd and Peter Frampton. From 1999 - 2001, he participated in extensive world tours with Ex-Marillion singer FISH. In 2001, he co-wrote FISH's album "Fellini Days". Shortly after this, he released his 2001 solo album "Chasing Monsters", which received more media attention than most of his other solo releases. More recently, John Wesley has toured as a backing guitarist and vocalist with PORCUPINE TREE, on the IN ABSENTIA, DEADWING and FEAR OF A BLANK PLANET tours. After the DEADWING tour in 2005, he released his fifth and most recent solo album, SHIVER. This album was mixed by STEVEN WILSON (PORCUPINE TREE), also included a guitar solo from Marillion's STEVE ROTHERY and has recieved more critical acclaim than any of his other solo releases. On the 24th of August, 2007, John announced through his MySpace page that he would be making all of his solo albums available for Free, Legal download through his official site. John Wesley has most recently performed as an opening act for Marillion at MARILLION WEEKEND: Montreal in 2009, and with Porcupine Tree on their recent tourdates. Official Site: http://www.john-wesley.com/ - http://www.john-wesley.com/ Why this person should be included on ProgArchives: Prog Related is the category that groups bands and artists that: - Without being 100% Prog, received clear MUSICAL influence of this genre - Blend characteristics of Progressive Rock with mainstream elements creating a final product that despite not being part of the genre is evident that are close to Prog. Sound samples: MYSPACE: http://www.myspace.com/johnwesleymusic - http://www.myspace.com/johnwesleymusic (His myspace has about ten of his tracks for streaming, I think) Thanks! -Joel ------------- 
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 09 2009 at 12:12
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I could definately see him on here.
Maybe not the most brutal prog I've ever heard, but there are parts of it that do sound proggy, and besides... he's in one of the leading bands of prog. Wilson's 'Blackfield' is here, so why not this guy?
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 11 2009 at 01:20
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I'm also willing to post reviews of decent length for his albums if he is accepted, and I'll do those quite quickly.
-Joel -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 14 2009 at 01:50
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Would anyone like me to post a Discography here?
I'm willing to do so if it helps him get added to the 'chives. -Joel  -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 19 2009 at 14:16
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^ he's on the Crossover evaluations list Joel. This list is very long and it will take us a long time to clear it all, so please be patient. Thanks for the suggestion, I've been thinking about all the PT members side/solo projects for a while now, Wesley is the most promising from a Prog perspective. ------------- What? |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 19 2009 at 16:41
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^Thanks Dean!
Would you like me to prepare a quick discography in the mean time? -Joel  -------------
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 19 2009 at 16:43
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sure - if you've the time to waste - much better to prepare it after he's been approved then your time would not have been spent in vain if rejected. ------------- What? |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: August 19 2009 at 16:53
^^Probably a good idea to wait then 
Thanks Dean -Joel -------------
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Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: August 23 2009 at 16:11
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I will also do reviews for his works of good length.
Personally I think he would be better for Prog-Related over Crossover however...
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 02:51
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Wesley have now been added to Crossover :-)
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 05:59
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Thanks a million Windhawk - I'll start reviewing over the next few days. -------------
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: December 30 2009 at 12:25
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Oh, come on. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 20:53
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how the hell was "Thanksgiving Day" a good example of his alleged progginess? If Toby Keith wrote/sang that exact same song, it would have never been anywhere near ProgArchives
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 21:03
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I thought it was good to have some material embedded into the OP, and that's the only solo song of his on YouTube.
How about you actually listen to an album by him before you judge his progressive credibility. Or fine, you can go and judge Genesis by Invisible Touch and judge Yes by Owner Of A Lonely Heart if you really want. -------------
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 31 2009 at 21:49
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It's a fair point joel, no need to shout. ;-) Typically when a sample is included in a post, it's for the purpose of showing that the artist belongs here, not just so we can hear notes coming out of his guitar, so you can imagine why some of us would be surprised when it's that. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 04:25
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I'm sorry, I've heard all his solo stuff more than once, and apart maybe from Shiver, I can't tell what makes him that different from Bryan Adams, who he constantly reminds of - hey, let's had HIM to Crossover instead.
Seriously, I like John's solo stuff, it's nice and pretty pop, but if you want to keep him here, move him to Prog-Related. Personaly, I don't even think his conections merit inclusion in PA (it's quite clear to me that his music alone doesn't cut it).
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Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 04:44
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But he was approved by crossover team, so what was the reason ?
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 05:39
As Marty said, he was already approved by the crossover team. If you want to make a thread to put him in prog related, feel free, but I can't see why it matters in the slightest which sub genre he's in. He's already here now, and caring about moving him to another genre is incredibly petty. -------------
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Kotro wrote:Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 05:55
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Also, if you really feel he should be moved, why didn't you bring it up... Oh, I don't know, before he had been added to the site under crossover? -------------
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 06:03
Wanting to improve the site by making it more accurate is being petty?  ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 06:15
Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. Its just massively non-constructive in comparison to A LOT of other things one could be doing to help the site. Reviewing, adding albums/artists, writing bios., etc. Also, that accuracy is a matter of opinion. He was placed in Crossover by the crossover team; if the admins and genre teams thought he belonged in prog related, then he would've been put there. -------------
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 06:56
I agree, and I've done plenty of that. As for the opinions, well, that's all they are - and I believe I'm entitled to have an opposite one, not in any way less valuable than the rest. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 01 2010 at 07:10
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Wesley's addition to Crossover was cleared by a majority vote of two Admins and a SC on the Crossover Team. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 04:20
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Well, I guess that makes it alright, then. Can't wait for you feedback on Bryan Adams. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 04:33
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Bryan Adams didn't even make it into the charts. Comparing him with Wesley is like comparing Pendragon with Dokken - both arguably belonging in a similar musical territory, but with substantial differences in terms of compositional structures, elements and effects utilized as well as general level of sophistication ;-)
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: January 02 2010 at 14:01
I agree, Bryan Adams is more original. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |