New Dream Theater album coming

dammit June 22 is still more than 2 months away!!!

Nice cover.  You guys think they'll finally release a decent album this time?  

No really, just kidding around here.

I'm one of those odd people who actually prefer their more recent releases to the 90's stuff.  In fact, it was the 6 degrees suite that got me listening to them and buying the albums (though I still have never heard TOT).  They seem like a pretty consistent band to my ears, and I like most of what they do.  Though admittedly I'm mostly a symph prog freak who loved metal for a few years in high school (and Metallica and Slayer later on).

Anyway, I'll be picking it up, though probably not on release day.  The track times look promising (as if that were some way to determine quality )

SUCK IT! THE ALBUM F***ING RULES

MisterProg2112 wrote: There's only 6 songs, that's why I'm excited. I loved ITPOE, Repentance & Ministry of Lost Souls on SC..as far as d.e.n, the music was good. Their longer songs are always better. ALWAYS.

I would say often, and they have made some long songs that werent very good too so long does not necessarily mean good.  It is true though that most of my favorite DT songs are the long ones (learning to live, a change of seasons, etc) but there are also exceptions like hells kitchen

Plus, get excited for the finish of the AA suite, and we can finally hear what the whole thing sounds like live!

The first thing I thought just looking at the cover of BC&SL was: "man, this cover is actually empty...but filled with the DT symbol!". Actully, the DT symbol fills almost the entire scene.
This might lead to some nice interpretations...

Edited by mangoo - April 10 2009 at 13:35

HughesJB4 wrote: thetick wrote: My Gosh. Every time DT comes out with a new album all you hear on these forums is whining and b%tching about whether or not it will sound like IAW or Awake. Those albums came out 15 YEARS AGO!! THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SOUND LIKE THAT AGAIN -  GET OVER IT. If you are going to complain about DT you are obviously not a fan. So why are you posting up here. Bands like DT, Symphony X and others are keeping prog metal alive and well for the rest of us who love it  If you don't like go to the classic rock forums and discuss the finer qualities of Autograph or something. Otherwise just zip it and play Pull Me Under for the 10,000th time.  "If you are going to complain about DT you are obviously not a fan" Wow, that is an intelligent and profound statement I've been listening to Dream Theater since 2005, I own all their studio albums, and some of their live albums, I listen to them once a week and I paid a fair bit of money to see the band live last year. Octavarium sucks balls. Dance Of Eternity is a crap song. I only liked about half of the songs from Systematic Chaos. Does this mean I'm not a fan because I think an entire album basically sucks, that a song from the album that the Dream Theater fanboys call the best album they've made yet stinks, that their last album which some people called a return to form is not that great?

clearly NOT a Dream Theater fan

In my case, i only dislike Falling Into Infinity and some parts of TOT and SC. I LOVE Octavarium, really. Their best album after Six Degrees.

Cygnus X-2 wrote: micky wrote: that would be a show I would actually look forward to going to see.   Their live shows are always really good, because you'll never hear them make a mistake (and I know how much you're a stickler for Petrucci's playing, how AMAZING and TECHNICAL and VIRTUOSTIC, and most importantly, TASTEFUL, it is).

Well actually, one several of their live DVDs, I could reel off a list of the fluff ups they make.
Doesn't really concern me that much, but it is a bit absurd to say the band is totally flawless live, because you can sometimes hear mistakes in the unison/harmonized sections between Petrucci and Rudess in the DVDs.

Yes, I'm hyped, even though I have a little fear burning inside me... The cover's cool, but what the heck is with the massive amounts of annoying "references" and other stuff. I just don't like it. I prefer more simple covers, or at least, covers which are at least somehow... a whole, you know, not just a background and random stuff, which I think some DT-album-covers are, like this and Awake. Even though I like this one's color palette a lotta more than Awake's (it doesn't use such big distances between colors), I could have liked it more with only the planetary wall and the door to the light and it would've been an 11/10 cover.

Then I hope that now that they have 6 songs, the songs are not filled with jam sessions in every hole (well, that's a little carricated but you can't deny that Petrucci and Rudess are a little bit subject to longer solos, right?), more like atmospherical stuff or very planned out song structures, so that you can see when youre at point 5:32 instead of 10:56... DT's done some really good stuff but it's got it's flaws, too. Hope that this album has a more mainstreamish (sorry) song which is awesome (*coughTaketheTimecough*) but also some good epics, too., which it'll probably have. I think that this'll be a day one purchase still. Oh, and please a little bit lighter sound than what you did in ToT and SC, you're no Metallica, really.

And even though my text sounded pretty negative (?), don't get me wrong - I love DT but I must not become a numb fanboy, because they've got their flaws too.

Geez, why the heck can't I do clear messages. Dammit.


Edited by Tzibo - March 18 2009 at 15:02

thetick wrote: My Gosh. Every time DT comes out with a new album all you hear on these forums is whining and b%tching about whether or not it will sound like IAW or Awake. Those albums came out 15 YEARS AGO!! THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SOUND LIKE THAT AGAIN -  GET OVER IT. If you are going to complain about DT you are obviously not a fan. So why are you posting up here. Bands like DT, Symphony X and others are keeping prog metal alive and well for the rest of us who love it  If you don't like go to the classic rock forums and discuss the finer qualities of Autograph or something. Otherwise just zip it and play Pull Me Under for the 10,000th time.

So you are saying that if we dont love everything that Dream Theater releases we shouldn't post on this forum?  The website is called progarchives not dreamtheaterlovers.com.  I would also strongly disagree that dream theater and symphony x are "keeping prog metal alive" because there are plenty of good prog metal bands and people can be fans of the genre without being in love with dream theater.  I would consider myself a dream theater fan, but I have been disappointed with their recent albums and not just because I expect them to sound exactly like I&W or Awake.

Also, pull me under is the worst song on the album, substitute learning to live and I will happily go play it for the 10,000th time.