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    Posted: August 25 2008 at 14:18
We used to have a chat facility and although it was initially used for a while, it died a very quick death.

The issue for me with a chat facility, is that when there are lots of people present in them, they are almost impossible to keep track of.  Also, people soon seem to turn to nonsensical stuff and go off topic and it gets quite annoying.

With a dedicated thread, people can reply to things in their leisure.  Somebody may go away for a few days and upon return, they will be able to go through previous pages and find out if they have missed anything  So that's a very useful thing for me.

Also, I do not want to spend all my time in a chat facility, when I can take a break and not miss anything, because I browse back at things in my leisure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 19:53
it would be cool if this forum had an online chat room you could go to, like Prog Archives AIM or something haha. That'd probably save some bandwidth, cause who's going to reference general chats?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 05:40
Seems to have helped a bit. Havn't got those annoying error things for a while.
Yesterday, PA was slooow, though. But then, so was every other page aswell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 20:45
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

If I'm not mistaken old threads are still accessible but stopped at 4000, so all you have to do is start a new one after 4000 to keep it alive?

EL said hidden. Deleting the chat threads is fine (in fact it's probably what we should have been doing originally), but it really would make me sad not to be able to go through some of those old appreciation threads. Yes, you could ask whatever question you have again, but some people aren't posting as much anymore...


A hidden thread is accessible if you know the URL though, so just bookmark a page of a to be hidden topic (I've found some old ones using google cache, history, or just playing around with the numbers of forum threads).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 18:05
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

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Not had that, myself, mick. PA has been peachy as a peach since this thing for me.


thanks guys..  probably my computer.. .was fine yesterday along with everyone.. but the site is SLOW today in spots ...  funny thing is.. not having a problem loading other sites.  Oh well...




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 18:04
Same here, TGM.

Also, since it pretty much got lost on the last page:

Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Here's my ideal solution:


When a useful thread (like RIO drop in) reaches 4000 posts, close it and sticky it for two months.  That way, people can still have access to the latest suggestions in it for a good while.  After the two months, when people have gleaned the info they need from it, then hide it, since the new thread will have taken off and the old one won't be needed anymore.  That way, the site isn't significantly slowed down by larger threads (since the threads like Rio Drop In take a long time to reach 4000, meaning there will only be a handful of stickied large threads at a time, if that) that linger forever, and people don't lose the information they need.

Of course Velvet Rooms and the like can disappear as they reach 4000.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 18:00
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Not had that, myself, mick. PA has been peachy as a peach since this thing for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 17:48
getting error messages again.. and long waits for pages to load...  not sure if it is just me... still on my old war-horse of a computer. Need to get the new one going and use that I guess hahah.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 17:26
Especially since they would only appear temporarily, and there would only be one or two at a time at most given how long they take to reach 4000 posts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 17:19
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Here's my ideal solution:


When a useful thread (like RIO drop in) reaches 4000 posts, close it and sticky it for two months.  That way, people can still have access to the latest suggestions in it for a good while.  After the two months, when people have gleaned the info they need from it, then hide it, since the new thread will have taken off and the old one won't be needed anymore.  That way, the site isn't significantly slowed down by larger threads (since the threads like Rio Drop In take a long time to reach 4000, meaning there will only be a handful of stickied large threads at a time, if that) that linger forever, and people don't lose the information they need.

Of course Velvet Rooms and the like can disappear as they reach 4000.


A solution like this sounds reasonable - and there aren't many prog forum threads of this size, so it shouldn't effect performance too much, I would think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 16:35
Here's my ideal solution:


When a useful thread (like RIO drop in) reaches 4000 posts, close it and sticky it for two months.  That way, people can still have access to the latest suggestions in it for a good while.  After the two months, when people have gleaned the info they need from it, then hide it, since the new thread will have taken off and the old one won't be needed anymore.  That way, the site isn't significantly slowed down by larger threads (since the threads like Rio Drop In take a long time to reach 4000, meaning there will only be a handful of stickied large threads at a time, if that) that linger forever, and people don't lose the information they need.

Of course Velvet Rooms and the like can disappear as they reach 4000.


Edited by Pnoom! - August 12 2008 at 16:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 16:32
The reason the threads are hidden too is so that they are no accessed during searches etc. The point about being able to refer back for info is taken, although finding such posts in a very large thread may prove challenging anyway.
 
Let's see how much improvement there is, then look to see if M@x can find any compromises.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 15:58
Or just exploiting the rules Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 15:55
Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

If I'm not mistaken old threads are still accessible but stopped at 4000, so all you have to do is start a new one after 4000 to keep it alive?

EL said hidden. Deleting the chat threads is fine (in fact it's probably what we should have been doing originally), but it really would make me sad not to be able to go through some of those old appreciation threads. Yes, you could ask whatever question you have again, but some people aren't posting as much anymore...


So I think the idea is start a new thread at 3500 so it doesn't get to 4000, and then it doesn't get hidden.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 13:48
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

If I'm not mistaken old threads are still accessible but stopped at 4000, so all you have to do is start a new one after 4000 to keep it alive?

EL said hidden. Deleting the chat threads is fine (in fact it's probably what we should have been doing originally), but it really would make me sad not to be able to go through some of those old appreciation threads. Yes, you could ask whatever question you have again, but some people aren't posting as much anymore...


So I think the idea is start a new thread at 3500 so it doesn't get to 4000, and then it doesn't get hidden.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 13:01
Ironically I got a timeout error when trying to post in this thread last night....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 12:54
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

If I'm not mistaken old threads are still accessible but stopped at 4000, so all you have to do is start a new one after 4000 to keep it alive?

EL said hidden. Deleting the chat threads is fine (in fact it's probably what we should have been doing originally), but it really would make me sad not to be able to go through some of those old appreciation threads. Yes, you could ask whatever question you have again, but some people aren't posting as much anymore...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 12:45
If I'm not mistaken old threads are still accessible but stopped at 4000, so all you have to do is start a new one after 4000 to keep it alive?
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 11:41
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Pnoom! Pnoom! wrote:



But as long as you're consistent and would've banned The Grey Room, too, Micky, then I'm not quite as annoyed by your post.
 
lets just say that that is NOT going to happen...Wink


I know, it's just the hypocrisy of banning the chat room for young people and not old people simply because young people aren't boring and slow and thus clog up the server more that bugs me. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2008 at 11:33
Hmm.  This does pose a bit of a problem.  I have no problem with throwing old VR threads in the trash, but those appreciation threads do have a lot of useful information - it would really be a shame to not be able to access them.

edit:  is there any way to implement a sliding window, such that for every new post > 4000 the oldest post in the thread is removed?


Edited by NaturalScience - August 12 2008 at 11:35
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