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Dim
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Topic: Harry Potter Posted: January 01 2008 at 15:23 |
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1800iareyay
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 02:00 |
Man With Hat wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
I read the first chapter of the first book and that was enough for me. |
Bingo.
I don't think I even made it through the first chapter actually.
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A) That's a dumb practice for any method of entertainment, be it books, film, or music B) The first three books are firmly for children, so of course it probably seems silly to you
By Book 4 Rowling was managing to mix adult content with enough whims and accessibility to keep children reading. It seemed like each new novel kept up with my generation's aging. The final entry was really for teenagers at the youngest. Sure, the ending as predictable, but the same people who complain about this are the ones who dismiss it as a children's book. Lord of the Rings isn't for children, but everything turns out swimmingly there. The only member of the Fellowship who dies is the one that no one likes anyway. It only makes sense that Harry would win and live happily ever after; the poor boy has had to put up with s**t since birth. If you don't like it fine, but you can't expect people to take your opinion seriously when you stop ten minutes in. Hell, I sat through Love Beach just to see if it would get better. There's no way HP was that painful.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 01:42 |
Vompatti wrote:
I read the first chapter of the first book and that was enough for me. |
Bingo.
I don't think I even made it through the first chapter actually.
Not my cup of tea I suppose.
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:53 |
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 05:47 |
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I read 3 o 4 books, but just to read something in English...
(I read B.Jones's Diary for the same reason... )
But the Order of the Phoenix and the Deathly Hallows are not bad though
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Barla
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Posted: December 27 2007 at 12:15 |
I read the first book and gave up in the middle of the second. There were just to many things and names going on.
On the other hand, the movies are excellent and very well done.
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1800iareyay
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Posted: December 27 2007 at 12:05 |
Jim Garten wrote:
jetson wrote:
you can have a great time reading HP books, and an awful time watching HP movies |
Have to disagree I'm afraid; OK, Radcliffe/Watson/Grint aren't the greatest of acting talent the UK's ever seen, but so far the films have had the advantage of good directors, screenwriters who know what to cut or keep & a supporting cast of A-List actors more than able to raise what could have been sub-standard adaptations to good films in their own right. |
I have to take the flip side, Jim. I believe the casting has been superb (not only the A-list of Isaacs, Rickman, Thompson, etc.), but the kids as well. Everyone cast is exactly how I pictured them. I blame the weak points on the directors and screenwriters. If Watson and Grint look weak, it's because all of their character growth is cut from the film. Daniel Radcliffe is shaping up to be a great actor IMO (go back and watch Phoenix, and from what I hear Equus was quite good). The only great director was Cuaron, and he made Prisoner the best HP film despite the fact that it is so far the worst in terms of book adaptation. OOTP was far too streamlined for its own good (how the f**k did Yates think it was a good idea to make the longest book nearly the shortest film?), but it was highly enjoyable and that fight between Dumbledore and Voldemort was what I've wanted since the first film.
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Posted: December 27 2007 at 11:31 |
YesFan72 wrote:
I had a problem with the epilogue... Too expected. |
At least it pretty much closed the book (no pun intended) on the series; Rowling always said there'd only be 7 books, but can you imagine the temptation to write more, given the demand?
Of the series, the only one I had any issues with was '...Phoenix'; always saw that one as a bit of a filler, not really moving the narrative on - having said that, I still enjoyed it & thoroughly enjoyed the film too.
jetson wrote:
you can have a great time reading HP books, and an awful time watching HP movies |
Have to disagree I'm afraid; OK, Radcliffe/Watson/Grint aren't the greatest of acting talent the UK's ever seen, but so far the films have had the advantage of good directors, screenwriters who know what to cut or keep & a supporting cast of A-List actors more than able to raise what could have been sub-standard adaptations to good films in their own right.
Edited by Jim Garten - December 27 2007 at 11:35
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jetson
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 19:45 |
you can have a great time reading HP books, and an awful time watching HP movies
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YesFan72
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 19:28 |
I had a problem with the epilogue... Too expected.
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daz2112
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Posted: September 29 2007 at 15:31 |
Love it!! Books are much better than the films !
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:34 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
Shakespeare wrote:
cookieacquired wrote:
Harry Potter died for your sins
that's the message |
I don't believe in your silly HP myth.
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SPOILER ALERT
Yeah, he did. He had the last bit of evil (voldemort) inside of him and he had to die to completely rid the world of the evil Voldemort....only to be resurrected. |
you might want to make that bigger for people. People are known to be stupid. Yeah, I hated the ending. Found it totally....totally....EUGH!
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:28 |
Shakespeare wrote:
cookieacquired wrote:
Harry Potter died for your sins
that's the message |
I don't believe in your silly HP myth.
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SPOILER ALERT
Yeah, he did. He had the last bit of evil (voldemort) inside of him and he had to die to completely rid the world of the evil Voldemort....only to be resurrected.
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:26 |
cookieacquired wrote:
Harry Potter died for your sins
that's the message |
I don't believe in your silly HP myth.
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cookieacquired
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Posted: September 28 2007 at 23:19 |
Harry Potter died for your sins
that's the message
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Badabec
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Posted: September 24 2007 at 10:30 |
Overhyped, But Not Too Shabby
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 12:27 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
Good reading when you don't want to think too much about what you're reading.
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For some of us, that's never. (But I do agree, and see your point.)
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 12:17 |
I thought that I wouldn't like the story as much when I got older, but the story got a lot more interesting and complex. Wasn't bad at all. Good reading when you don't want to think too much about what you're reading.
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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Shakespeare
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Posted: September 23 2007 at 12:12 |
The later books were terrible! Reading book five and on were an exercise of my willpower.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 15 2007 at 08:31 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
I did hear that they removed all direct references to God and the Church from the movie to make it "financially viable" in the US |
You mean like they changed the first Harry Potter movie title from '...The Philosophers Stone' to '...The Sorcerers Stone' in the US, as they were concerned about the use of the word "Philosopher"?
Or the way they changed "The Madness Of George III" to "The Madness Of King George", in case they thought the original was a sequel...
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