New TMV album: Amputechture?

Empathy wrote: GoldenSpiral wrote: If TMV has made a solid TMV record, can you blame them for that?  Saying they're sellouts because they tour with a big name instead of a nobody, even while they keep to their progressive sound makes no sense at all.  In that mindset you're no better than any other indie-hipster-snob who ditches his favorite bands as soon as they sell records.  Not to mention that it's the LABEL that ultimately decides who they tour with. The RHCP have been at the periphery of TMV since its inception. (Frusciante played on De-Loused!) The hipster "I can't like a band because they're popular" mentality is something that thankfully, most grow out of.

I liked DeLoused, but this album is overall weak; why people keep acting like it's some wonderful journey beyond the stars is mind-numbing.

I also can't find enjoyment in listening to music made by people whose hearts are clearly not into it. As a musician, I have come to realize that the most important thing about making music is putting everything you are into your works. From what I see, TMV went from a great band with great potential to a cliche of psychedelia and randomness.

Again, let me point out that they re-titled a song, tweaked its style, and tried to pass it off as an original work made specifically for this story -- but they wrote it for DeLoused.

That'd be like if Pink Floyd wrote 'Welcome to the Machine' for WYWH, didn't put it on because they didn't have room, and then put it on Animals and tried to convince us that it fit the concept. It smells like... *sniff sniff*... a sellout.

DeepPhreeze wrote: anael wrote: DeepPhreeze wrote: Are people so blind as to not see that TMV sold out? No way, sold out? Yeah they became too poppy right? Anyway, it's an excellent, excellent album, higly recommended. I can't wait for the official release 'Poppy'. No, they didn't turn into pop, but they sold out to their image of space-rock horror flick pioneers. And they're using the same formulas that made them popular in the first place. DITC was brilliant; FTM was ambitious (I give it that much); Amputechture is them taking whatever made either album sell well, rolling it up into one release, and then calling it a new work. RHCP corrupted these guys. Sparta has the decency to promote underground bands; TMV sidles up to already-famous acts to keep their sales up. Did you read my post, or are you one of those guys who plugs his ears and goes "Lalalalala not listening!" ?

Dude, you are waaay too cynical.  You should like a band for their MUSIC, not for who they tour with or how many albums they sell.  Saying a band sold out because they are true to their form makes no sense.  It's like telling a jazz rock band that they've sold out to their image as a jazz rock band. 

If TMV has made a solid TMV record, can you blame them for that?  Saying they're sellouts because they tour with a big name instead of a nobody, even while they keep to their progressive sound makes no sense at all.  In that mindset you're no better than any other indie-hipster-snob who ditches his favorite bands as soon as they sell records. 

OMG!   'Viscera Eyes', what a great prog song!!!! Can't wait to lay down my cash for this one.

Edited by necromancing777 - July 14 2006 at 14:50

DeepPhreeze wrote: Are people so blind as to not see that TMV sold out?

No way, sold out? Yeah they became too poppy right?

Anyway, it's an excellent, excellent album, higly recommended. I can't wait for the official release

A friendly word.

I'm disappointed. Utterly disappointed.

Do me a favor. Put on Tetragrammaton, listen to the first minute or so.
Now quickly! Put on Eriatarka from DeLoused. Listen to the first segment, and then cut to the 3:15 mark.

Did you notice something? Maybe that all they did was TURN THE SHEET MUSIC UPSIDE DOWN? Eriatarka had powerful lyrics to make a flood of feeling and emotion. Tetragrammaton is just a mirror image filled with more musical drama and devoid of everything else. How about something new, guys?

The whole album plays out like a bad re-make of DeLoused that got chopped up and sequenced all wrong.

There are some redeeming moments but most of it sounds like they're finding middle-ground between DeLoused and Frances.

To me this translates to "We pushed it as far as we can; now let's make some cash off those people who either liked DeLoused or liked Frances, but not both."

And he keeps breaking down to that cocky "listen to me! I'm talking to you!" tone of voice where he practically raps the lyrics. It's so annoying. There's no feeling in it at all.

What a letdown. ATDI, what happened to you?


Edited by DeepPhreeze - July 14 2006 at 02:24

I'm gonna hold on and wait until it's released, but I hear it's amazing.

UUHHH I dont want to downloaded it...I want to buy it...BUT THE CURIOSITY IS TOO MUCH TO HANDLE!!! No, gotta be strong böthy

this album is amazing, its as good as their previous releases, easily the best release of 2006

I actually listened to "Viscera Eyes" (great title!) and was quite impressed. I'll get the album as soon as it's out. "Frances..." was better than it's given credit for, but the debut was a real cracker. I'm happy to see they have returned to a "shorter" song format rather than go for over-long, noise-filled suites.