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sm sm 
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:48 |
There are some of prog-metal songs that sounds like neo-prog, Dream Theater comes to mind, and certain neo-prog bands use some distortion and power chords that could classify some songs as prog-metal.
Some Power metal bands like Blind Guardian, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Iron Maiden, Fates Warning etc could easily pass for Prog-metal or neo-prog in many of their songs.
Personally, I want to see pop recordings from bands like the Strawbs, Caravan, Kansas, Barkley James Harvest, Genesis etc redone because the prog was in the songs, but either they or the record company wanted to sell more albums
Edited by sm sm - June 02 2006 at 11:49
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:11 |
They have also just recorded a live DVD............ with all the new stuff .............should be released in the next 3 months or so.........
So don't lose that link!!!!
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:09 |
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aw, Stonie, you are not trying hard enough!!!!
http://www.galahadonline.com/merchandise.htm
there you go! 
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:06 |
aw, Stonie, you are not trying hard enough!!!!
http://www.galahadonline.com/merchandise.htm
there you go!
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:02 |
Sean Trane wrote:
The britsih Galahad was a neo-prog band and they are progmetal nowadays |
Their music is hard to find, though. 
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:47 |
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^ Most Prog Metal bands make extensive use of acoustic instruments ... and they don't play fast all the time. Images & Words in particular contains as many acoustic/light passages as distorted/heavy passages. |
True. But Dream Theater is one of the closest Prog Metal bands to Neo Prog IMO.
Perhaps that is why they are so popular.
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:45 |
greenback wrote:
i prefer converting prog metal to neo prog, but here is my choice:
widow's peak from IQ! |
I think almost all songs from The Wake from IQ would do nicely as Prog Metal.
Add a distorted guitar ("two slightly distored guitars") to the intro of "Outer Limits" playing the same line and you have a good darker intro as basis for a metal song.
Marillion Fish Era has songs that come close of being Prog Metal.
Take away the smooth guitar of Rothery and replace it with a powerful and raw one and Forgotten Sons or Garden Party would be the pogo event of the evening.
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:44 |
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^ Most Prog Metal bands make extensive use of acoustic instruments ... and they don't play fast all the time. Images & Words in particular contains as many acoustic/light passages as distorted/heavy passages.
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:37 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Visitor13 wrote:
sleeper wrote:
^This thread went off topic because The Lost Chord spouted his "modern prog is rubish" rehtoric again.
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No, it went off topic, because people responded to his post, and someone even cared enough to write how much he didn't care.
As an example of the opposite, I think 'Images and Words' would make a wonderful neo-prog album. |
It IS a wonderful Neo Prog album! Ok, with a few heavy parts ...
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Isn't Neo Prog the basic of all prog at the moment.
All other genres are just additives to Neo Prog. 
That makes it possible to go the other way as someone already suggested:
Convert Prog Metal into Neo Prog.
Give John Petrucci an acoustic guitar and have him play with his slower left hand and voila.... Dream Theater is a Neo Prog classic.
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Kid-A
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:44 |
Listening to Images and Words for the first time right now 
edit - certainly better than Scenes from a memory, learning to live and metropolis part 1 are awesome
Edited by Kid-A - June 02 2006 at 07:32
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:15 |
^ true enough 
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:11 |
Visitor13 wrote:
sleeper wrote:
^This thread went off topic because The Lost Chord spouted his "modern prog is rubish" rehtoric again.
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No, it went off topic, because people responded to his post, and someone even cared enough to write how much he didn't care.
As an example of the opposite, I think 'Images and Words' would make a wonderful neo-prog album. |
It IS a wonderful Neo Prog album! Ok, with a few heavy parts ...
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:00 |
sleeper wrote:
^This thread went off topic because The Lost Chord spouted his "modern prog is rubish" rehtoric again.
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No, it went off topic, because people responded to his post, and someone even cared enough to write how much he didn't care.
As an example of the opposite, I think 'Images and Words' would make a wonderful neo-prog album.
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Posted: June 02 2006 at 05:53 |
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The britsih Galahad was a neo-prog band and they are progmetal nowadays
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:50 |
Mongo wrote:
IQ seem to walk a fine line between the two, perfect balance I'd say. |
Except they do not at all use Hard Rock/Metal tonality, which I guess
puts them out of the running, because 90% of all Prog Metal bands I've
heard do just that.
Edited by Teaflax - June 01 2006 at 23:51
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:26 |
IQ seem to walk a fine line between the two, perfect balance I'd say.
I always wanted to hear someone do a heavy metal version of "Tiny Dancer"
Queensryche do a fair version of "Scarborough Faire", but they could have(should have) gone a little bit farther with it.
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"The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:13 |
I don't know ...... Arena has a lot of heavy guitars on some of their songs.
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 22:54 |
The perfect (very balanced) combination of NeoProg and ProgMetal can be heard on Sylvan's "X-rayed"... very well worth checking out for fans of both genres.
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 21:13 |
The Lost Chord wrote:
neo prog is awful as is prog metal |
Ignorance is bliss.
Have you listened to anything besides classic symphonic, italian symphonic, and canterbury (based on the bands in your playlist)?
Listen to afew neo prog prog metal albums, than judge, if you do that your opinion is justified
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Posted: June 01 2006 at 21:11 |
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I like some of the metal flourishes I've heard in neo-prog, but full blown metal ... not interested.
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