Neo prog converted to Prog Metal
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Topic: Neo prog converted to Prog Metal
Posted By: Under
Subject: Neo prog converted to Prog Metal
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 16:28
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Which neo prog song would be great if it was played like Prog Metal? I think a song like Quartz from Marillion would do great with some heavier guitars and a raw voice.
The Wake from IQ is an easy one to convert to Prog Metal. It already reminds me a bit of Rage against the Machine.
Someone else a creative idea?
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Posted By: Orez17
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 16:36
| Iq - Sacred sound should sound good with heavy distortion |
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 16:36
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neo prog is awful as is prog metal -------------  "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: Under
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 16:39
Then what about a 1.5 minute Napalm Death version of Bungle in the Jungle of Jethro Tull?
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The Lost Chord wrote:Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 16:39
Just like Gentle Giant was in your mind before being at the top of your playlist  -------------  
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 16:56
Look, we all know you dont like anything after 1980, was their any point in this  .------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Pneubauer
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 17:34
heheh... mmmmmm... delicious. |
Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 17:59
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Both styles are not that different. Arena and Riverside are two bands that I consider to be a mix between neo-prog and prog-metal. Almost any neo-prog album would sound good with more metalish guitars and vocals. |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:00
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<<eo prog is awful as is prog metal>>
Sshhh, listen. That's the sound of all of us not giving a sh*t. 
E ------------- 
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:02
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:02
I have no idea.  Arena is basically prog-metal anyway.------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:23
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"The Wake" is already what I feel Prog Metal should sound like; Same with subterranea. The rest of what is known as Prog metal is too much into shape, and too little into content. Anekdoten, another fine example of true prog metal. The rest is Glam rock in disguise... ------------- ĦBeware of the Bee! |
Posted By: AtLossForWords
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:24
If that were true, that would mean neo prog is as good as progressive metal. -------------  
"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls." |
Posted By: horza
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:32
Some neo prog IS as good as some progressive metal  ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:34
Well that was a risky thing to say around a bunch of IQ, Marillion, and Arena fanboys
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Posted By: Hierophant
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 18:53
The only downfall this site has is the fact that everytime someone
brings up something "negative" the whole thread gets sunk and we all go
off on some weird tangent about Dream Theater or something. Any thread
with keywords "neo prog" or "prog metal" or "dream theater" are a
recipe for disaster. 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 19:14
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^This thread went off topic because The Lost Chord spouted his "modern prog is rubish" rehtoric again. Anyway, I'm sure you could redo any song, not just neo, to be a prog metal song, but why bother. Each band wrote and recorded songs to how they wanted them to sound, I'm no fan of covers because it takes away some of the original intent of the song, plus why cant you just write your own songs. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 19:47
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<<The only downfall this site has is the fact that everytime someone brings up something "negative" the whole thread gets sunk and we all go off on some weird tangent about Dream Theater or something. Any thread with keywords "neo prog" or "prog metal" or "dream theater" are a recipe for disaster.>>
Eh, you do have a valid point; however, I don't know what compells someone to come into a forum that they obviously have no interest in. I happen to be a pretty good cook, and if it's a recipe for disaster then the recipe is as follows: 1 tsp. Lighten up 1 tblspn of your opinion is better used for something else 1 1/2 tblspn of participate according to interest 1 c. of Who asked ya? Combine and marinade for at least until the sun burns itself out. Enjoy! E -------------
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 19:47
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LOL OMG...i was not expecting such a huge reaction...i was simply on my way out to play tennis and decided to leave something to laugh at later, and i am kind of laughing, but GEEZ DONT TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY!!!
Im just a jokester i cant helkp but add flavor to this forum, its boring most of the time anyway...
how bout THIS one.
BRITNEY SPEARS > NEO PROG
YEAH!! ------------- "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 19:49
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I did like the suggestion of "Quartz" as prog metal. Pretty driving tune anyway.
"Subterranea" by IQ would be darn good, too. E -------------
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 19:50
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Well, good gravy, what did you expect? For us to knuckle under to your onslaught of logic and say, "Hmmmm, I'd better trade in all of my neo prog and prog metal discs because I've apparently wasted my time according to one person".
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 20:16
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i prefer converting prog metal to neo prog, but here is my choice:
widow's peak from IQ! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 21:11
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I like some of the metal flourishes I've heard in neo-prog, but full blown metal ... not interested. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 21:13
Ignorance is bliss.
Have you listened to anything besides classic symphonic, italian symphonic, and canterbury (based on the bands in your playlist)?
Listen to afew neo prog prog metal albums, than judge, if you do that your opinion is justified
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Posted By: BestFreak
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 22:54
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The perfect (very balanced) combination of NeoProg and ProgMetal can be heard on Sylvan's "X-rayed"... very well worth checking out for fans of both genres. ------------- All the best freaks are here! |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:13
| I don't know ...... Arena has a lot of heavy guitars on some of their songs. |
Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:26
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IQ seem to walk a fine line between the two, perfect balance I'd say.
I always wanted to hear someone do a heavy metal version of "Tiny Dancer"
Queensryche do a fair version of "Scarborough Faire", but they could have(should have) gone a little bit farther with it. ------------- "The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish |
Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: June 01 2006 at 23:50
Except they do not at all use Hard Rock/Metal tonality, which I guess puts them out of the running, because 90% of all Prog Metal bands I've heard do just that. -------------  
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 05:53
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The britsih Galahad was a neo-prog band and they are progmetal nowadays ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:00
No, it went off topic, because people responded to his post, and someone even cared enough to write how much he didn't care.
As an example of the opposite, I think 'Images and Words' would make a wonderful neo-prog album.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:11
It IS a wonderful Neo Prog album! Ok, with a few heavy parts ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aotm-2025-1/vote" rel="nofollow - 2025 Monthly Release Poll Listened to: 
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:15
^ true enough
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 06:44
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Listening to Images and Words for the first time right now edit - certainly better than Scenes from a memory, learning to live and metropolis part 1 are awesome ------------- 
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Posted By: Under
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:37
Isn't Neo Prog the basic of all prog at the moment.
All other genres are just additives to Neo Prog.
 That makes it possible to go the other way as someone already suggested:
Convert Prog Metal into Neo Prog.
Give John Petrucci an acoustic guitar and have him play with his slower left hand and voila.... Dream Theater is a Neo Prog classic.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:44
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^ Most Prog Metal bands make extensive use of acoustic instruments ... and they don't play fast all the time. Images & Words in particular contains as many acoustic/light passages as distorted/heavy passages.
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Posted By: Under
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:45
I think almost all songs from The Wake from IQ would do nicely as Prog Metal.
Add a distorted guitar ("two slightly distored guitars") to the intro of "Outer Limits" playing the same line and you have a good darker intro as basis for a metal song.
Marillion Fish Era has songs that come close of being Prog Metal.
Take away the smooth guitar of Rothery and replace it with a powerful and raw one and Forgotten Sons or Garden Party would be the pogo event of the evening.
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Posted By: Under
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 08:47
True. But Dream Theater is one of the closest Prog Metal bands to Neo Prog IMO.
Perhaps that is why they are so popular.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:02
Their music is hard to find, though.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:06
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aw, Stonie, you are not trying hard enough!!!!
http://www.galahadonline.com/merchandise.htm there you go! 
P-C |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:09
 ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 09:11
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They have also just recorded a live DVD............ with all the new stuff .............should be released in the next 3 months or so.........
So don't lose that link!!!!
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Posted By: sm sm
Date Posted: June 02 2006 at 11:48
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There are some of prog-metal songs that sounds like neo-prog, Dream Theater comes to mind, and certain neo-prog bands use some distortion and power chords that could classify some songs as prog-metal.
Some Power metal bands like Blind Guardian, Helloween, Gamma Ray, Iron Maiden, Fates Warning etc could easily pass for Prog-metal or neo-prog in many of their songs.
Personally, I want to see pop recordings from bands like the Strawbs, Caravan, Kansas, Barkley James Harvest, Genesis etc redone because the prog was in the songs, but either they or the record company wanted to sell more albums
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