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Chicapah
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Topic: Tormato vs. Then There Were Three Posted: February 17 2006 at 12:46 |
Huge fan of both groups but consider both albums as low points in their catalogues.
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daz2112
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Posted: February 17 2006 at 12:31 |
..And Then There Were Three
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Tormato
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:49 |
Read my signature. "Future Times/Rejoice" are my favorite Yes songs ever, for personal reasons. I want to believe that the future will be better and brighter some day, and these song let me enjoy in advance. "Don't kill the whale" has rythm and power, and the encore has always fascinated me. If you think this is a disco song, probably you've never heard Tavares, Gloria Gaynor or the Bee Gees. "Onward" has been chosen countless times as a wedding song for so many couples I've contacted through the web that it can only be justified for the sheer beauty of the melody, lyrics and arrangements. "Release release" is pure prog fun, and if you think it's a punk song, you should listen to the Sex Pistols and The Ramones and then come back to Release-Release. There is absolutely nothing in common. Technically it's complex and challenging, fast and happy. I wouldn't change a single note played by Wakeman in the whole album. You don't like "Circus of Heaven"? skip it! It's a "song for children", just like the books of Antoine de Saint-Exupery or Lewis Carrol. you won't find anything there if you're unable to remember your chilhood. "Arriving UFO" is funny and interesting for readers of Isaac Asimov or Stanislaw Lem. "Madrigal" is tender and sweet, and "In the silent Wings of Freedom", well......what else can be said about it? A great song, with such a sense of liberty, improvization, like when you go for a walk just for the sake of looking around, or when you are really enjoying a good conversation in which you change topics because it's not the topic what matters, but the pleasure of talking....like lacking direction,......until everything wraps up into the last few minutes of the song to an amazing conclusion. I love it!
"And Then There Were 3" was the first album that I heard from Genesis, and it's one of my favorite, my 4th really, after "The Lamb", "Selling England" and "Trick". Not very close to Tormato.
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I like Tormato, so shoot me! Every person in the world can't think the same.
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riverking
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:29 |
without a doubt the last great genesis album.... Sold out after this..
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Tormato
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:22 |
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I like Tormato, so shoot me! Every person in the world can't think the same.
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Zac M
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:12 |
At least ...And Then There Were Three... is consistent and not half-bad. Tormato could have been good, but wasn't executed as well as it could have been, thus making it a mess IMO.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 07:24 |
I like both albums a lot, but And Then There Were Three is one of my top favourite albums, and Tormato is very good, but not in my album top 25.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 07:16 |
Just as tough as Drama Vs Duke
I think those were both just average albums (and both inferior to the other poll's album)
but fairly close and difficult choice
Tormato maybe , because there are no stinkers such as Follow You
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 07:06 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Pylo
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 06:05 |
...And Then There Were Three
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Vompatti
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 05:51 |
Tormato.
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micky
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 22:47 |
valravennz wrote:
Tormato
The remastered version with extra tracks turns this rather sublime album into something a little more special. |
agreed... those bonus tracks were pretty good... enough for an extra
star. Great to hear the early version of 'Does it really happen'
which was probably my favorite off of Drama. Get a kick out of
Squire and Countryside as well... oh the sound of a Rickenbacker raised
in anger hahahhaha.
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Soulman
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 22:05 |
I find Tormato, a bit more of a memorable album for me; however, the
splitting of Hacket on ATTW3 is quite memorable, I only look into the
songs.
I found ATTW3 to be an okay album and it had some melodies and superb
production, but I prefered the Tormato's raw sound. I think because I
hoping Yes would return to that like they had in their early albums.
Tormato didn't feel really wishy-washy and overproduced, like ATTW3
was, which I liked very much.
The songs on Tormato were also solid with some unifying and non-cryptic
themes, that are easily memorable: like "Arriving UFO" for example.
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valravennz
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:42 |
Tormato
The remastered version with extra tracks turns this rather sublime album into something a little more special.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:37 |
And Then There Were Three.
I could never stomach Tormato.
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John Gargo
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:07 |
...AND THEN THERE WERE THREE. Great album.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:06 |
...And then there were three whoops Tormato. Tormato is the worst Yes album 69-83.
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infinite adam
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 20:37 |
Tormoato, like Drama, is an awesome album. I like Drama and Tormato because it's an evolution from the classic 70s Yes, but the albums aren't produced/oversimplified like their 80s counterparts (90125/Big Generator).
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King of Loss
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 20:00 |
Tormato definitely, And Then There Were Three sucks.
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FragileDT
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Posted: February 13 2006 at 19:45 |
Tormato definitely. I don't think Tormato is that bad of an album. I like
almost every song on it though it's not as intense as earlier yes works.
"Release, Release" is one of my favorites.
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