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Topic: Tormato vs. Then There Were Three
Posted By: SirPsycho388
Subject: Tormato vs. Then There Were Three
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:54

To follow up the post of "Drama vs Duke", which 1978 album by these prog giants do you think is better?

Tormato       vs       ...And Then There Were Three



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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 16:55

And then there were three

 

Follow You, Follow Me



Posted By: Winter Wine
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 17:35
I haven't heard much of 'Tormato' even though I love Yes. I love ...And then There were three so i'll vote for that

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 17:51
Tormato.... for giving us 'On the Silent Wings of Freedom' ....a  classic Yessong, and one of the only tracks on that album that Wakeman didn't ruin.

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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 18:02
A total walkover for me. 'ATTWT' trounces 'Tormato' for having several excellent songs and not one that I find at all cringeworthy, whereas 'Tormato' has half an album I consider to be pretty weak.


Posted By: Emiaj
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 18:30
I always liked ATTW3..an album I can listen to at any moment except for the last track..haven't listened to Tormato for quite a while..last time I did it was just for the bonus tracks


Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 19:34

ATTW3

have to agree about "silent wings of freedom", awesome song.



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Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 19:45
Tormato definitely. I don't think Tormato is that bad of an album. I like
almost every song on it though it's not as intense as earlier yes works.
"Release, Release" is one of my favorites.

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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 20:00
Tormato definitely, And Then There Were Three sucks.


Posted By: infinite adam
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 20:37
Tormoato, like Drama, is an awesome album.  I like Drama and Tormato because it's an evolution from the classic 70s Yes, but the albums aren't produced/oversimplified like their 80s counterparts (90125/Big Generator). 

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Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:06
...And then there were three whoops Tormato.  Tormato is the worst Yes album 69-83.

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Posted By: John Gargo
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:07

...AND THEN THERE WERE THREE.  Great album.



Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:37

And Then There Were Three.

I could never stomach Tormato.



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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 21:42

Tormato

The remastered version with extra tracks turns this rather sublime album into something a little more special.



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Posted By: Soulman
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 22:05
I find Tormato, a bit more of a memorable album for me; however, the splitting of Hacket on ATTW3 is quite memorable, I only look into the songs.

I found ATTW3 to be an okay album and it had some melodies and superb production, but I prefered the Tormato's raw sound. I think because I hoping Yes would return to that like they had in their early albums. Tormato didn't feel really wishy-washy and overproduced, like ATTW3 was, which I liked very much.

The songs on Tormato were also solid with some unifying and non-cryptic themes, that are easily memorable: like "Arriving UFO" for example.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 13 2006 at 22:47
Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

Tormato

The remastered version with extra tracks turns this rather sublime album into something a little more special.



agreed... those bonus tracks were pretty good... enough for an extra star.  Great to hear the early version of 'Does it really happen' which was probably my favorite off of Drama.  Get a kick out of Squire and Countryside as well... oh the sound of a Rickenbacker raised in anger hahahhaha.


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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 05:51
Tormato.


Posted By: Pylo
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 06:05

...And Then There Were Three

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 07:06


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 07:16

Just as tough as Drama Vs Duke

I think those were both just average albums (and both inferior to the other poll's album)

but fairly close and difficult choice

Tormato maybe , because there are no stinkers such as Follow You



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 07:24
I like both albums a lot, but And Then There Were Three is one of my top favourite albums, and Tormato is very good, but not in my album top 25.


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:12
At least ...And Then There Were Three... is consistent and not half-bad. Tormato could have been good, but wasn't executed as well as it could have been, thus making it a mess IMO.

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Posted By: Tormato
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:22

 

 

Guess what I voted?



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I like Tormato, so shoot me! Every person in the world can't think the same.


Posted By: riverking
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:29
  without a doubt the last great genesis album.... Sold out after this..


Posted By: Tormato
Date Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:49

 

 

Read my signature. "Future Times/Rejoice" are my favorite Yes songs ever, for personal reasons. I want to believe that the future will be better and brighter some day, and these song let me enjoy in advance. "Don't kill the whale" has rythm and power, and the encore has always fascinated me. If you think this is a disco song, probably you've never heard Tavares, Gloria Gaynor or the Bee Gees. "Onward" has been chosen countless times as a wedding song for so many couples I've contacted through the web that it can only be justified for the sheer beauty of the melody, lyrics and arrangements. "Release release" is pure prog fun, and if you think it's a punk song, you should listen to the Sex Pistols and The Ramones and then come back to Release-Release. There is absolutely nothing in common. Technically it's complex and challenging, fast and happy.  I wouldn't change a single note played by Wakeman in the whole album. You don't like "Circus of Heaven"? skip it! It's a "song for children", just like the books of Antoine de Saint-Exupery or Lewis Carrol. you won't find anything there if you're unable to remember your chilhood. "Arriving UFO" is funny and interesting for readers of Isaac Asimov or Stanislaw Lem. "Madrigal" is tender and sweet, and "In the silent Wings of Freedom", well......what else can be said about it? A great song, with such a sense of liberty, improvization, like when you go for a walk just for the sake of looking around, or when you are really enjoying a good conversation in which you change topics because it's not the topic what matters, but the pleasure of talking....like lacking direction,......until everything wraps up into the last few minutes of the song to an amazing conclusion. I love it!

"And Then There Were 3" was the first album that I heard from Genesis, and it's one of my favorite, my 4th really, after "The Lamb", "Selling England" and "Trick". Not very close to Tormato.



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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 12:31
..And Then There Were Three

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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: February 17 2006 at 12:46
Huge fan of both groups but consider both albums as low points in their catalogues.

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